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Link Dump: January 6th, 2010
by: The Geeks on Jan 6, 2010 12:10 AM | Filed under: Link Dumps

[08:04 AM] New York Post: Magadan says Bay will fit in perfectly with Mets
[09:32 PM] Mets.com: Inbox: Dissecting the Bay aftermath
[09:14 AM] Amazin’ Avenue: New Year’s Eve Applesauce – More Bay reactions, 2009 Met defense, Aroldis Chapman update
[09:06 AM] Baseball Prospectus: The Year in Quotes: The Highs and Lows of 2009 by Alex Carnevale
[07:00 AM] New York Post: Bay-after: Mets seek starter
[05:10 AM] NY Daily News: Former teammate Sean Casey says New York Mets made right move signing Jason Bay
[10:45 PM] Newsday: My 2010 Hall of Fame ballot
[10:02 PM] Amazin’ Avenue: Ken Davidoff’s 2010 Hall of Fame ballot
[10:01 PM] Amazin’ Avenue: Rockies close to a deal with Olivo, could the Mets turn to Torrealba?
[09:38 PM] New York Times: The Mets Look to Canada
[07:13 PM] Sports Illustrated: Cards make $100M pitch for Holliday

Most headlines aggregated by SportSpyder.


622 Responses to “Link Dump: January 6th, 2010”

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  1. Comment posted by Future on January 6, 2010 at 12:46 am (#1131001)

    First! Simons!

    USA! USA! USA!

  2. Comment posted by Jose Reyes – RBI Machine on January 6, 2010 at 1:33 am (#1131002)

    Hey guys! Long time no chat. I think it’s probably been since 2006 or so that I posted on this regularly.

    In any event, I figured I’d drop a line here just in case my blog is one of the ones which gets pulled off sportsspyder and linked here. I’ve always blogged things about the Mets, but only recently did I commit to an actual URL and twist some arms to get co-writers.

    Anyway, that’s me over at Fonzie Forever. I hope you check us out and don’t be afraid to provide some constructive criticism. Glad to see you guys are still killin’ it here at the old site.

    -Brian

  3. Comment posted by MyFavoriteBaseballSquadron on January 6, 2010 at 8:35 am (#1131003)

    First! Simons!

    USA! USA! USA!

    Congratulations to the US Junior hockey team for defeating Canada (in Canada) in overtime to capture the gold medal at the World Junior Championships and snap the Canadians consecutive gold medal streak at 5.

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  5. Comment posted by The Mad Stork on January 6, 2010 at 8:47 am (#1131004)

    “We played Canadian hockey,” said U.S. coach Dean Blais. “We played gritty

    I’ll be damned. Ed’s been right all along. It really is all about the gritz!

    BTW, hope everyone here enjoyed the holidays. And I’m sure quite a few of you welcomed in the new decade completely shit faced (the way it was meant to be).

    Now let’s see what us Americans can do to get this country back up and running for 2010 despite our elected officials best (or worst) efforts.

    And Let’s Go Mets!

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  7. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 8:52 am (#1131005)

    Like that Rangers prospects made such a big impact at juniors. Now… How soon can we call them up?

  8. Comment posted by MyFavoriteBaseballSquadron on January 6, 2010 at 9:04 am (#1131006)

    Like that Rangers prospects made such a big impact at juniors. Now… How soon can we call them up?

    Derek Stepan is a long shot at best at next year’s training camp. Kreider and Bourque are probably 3 years away.

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  10. Comment posted by The Mad Stork on January 6, 2010 at 9:11 am (#1131007)

    Kreider’s goal to knot it up in the first was beautiful. Both starting goalies got destroyed in this game, but I loved seeing Allen look clueless in that spot. And I thought for sure that Stepan was gonna barrel into Allen after his drove to the net in the third.

    Very entertaining game.

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  12. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 9:13 am (#1131008)

    Yeah, I know they’re a bit away. Still, we could certainly use some young firepower.

  13. Comment posted by MyFavoriteBaseballSquadron on January 6, 2010 at 9:25 am (#1131009)

    I watched the shootout from their match earlier, the goalies are a world apart from the quality of even average NHL goalies. Still, 2 of the big cogs on the US team are Rangers draftees so let’s hope Sather doesn’t screw it up and trade them unless they’re getting someone like Kovalchuk in return.

  14. Comment posted by MyFavoriteBaseballSquadron on January 6, 2010 at 9:32 am (#1131010)

    And between those players on the US team, Grachev in Hartford, Anisimov and Del Zotto already on the Rangers team, if they could keep those players in the organization for the next 3-4 years the Rangers will have some prime talent as the cap killer contracts expire.

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  16. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 9:33 am (#1131011)

    Hopefully, their development does wait for Lundqvist to begin declining.

  17. Comment posted by dogcatcher on January 6, 2010 at 9:33 am (#1131012)

    i like beltre…i think he’s going to bounce back huge in that park

    and his glove is soooo nice he’s likely to be worth 9M regardless

    I agree completely.
    OK, this is what drives me nuts about the Mets and why I respect the Redsox. Someone please tell me what the difference is between them signing Beltre, (with not 1, but TWO incumbent 3B on the roster) and us potentially signing Odog?

    Boston is FRANCHISE building..they aggressively acquire talent they identify. Just in the last 12 months, they’ve acquired Victor Martinez, Beltre and Lackey. Before that, they extracted Bay in a very dificult situation that Manny put them in.
    And they are leading the charge for Agon.

    The Mets could have used every single one of these guys.

    Boston doesnt let Lowell preclude them from signing a player they want. They are currently over the tax limit. Are you listening Omar? Fred/Jeff?

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  19. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 9:33 am (#1131013)

    doesn’t

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  21. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 9:35 am (#1131014)

    Beltre = Pedro Feliz.

  22. Comment posted by sheadenizen on January 6, 2010 at 9:42 am (#1131015)

    Beltre = Pedro Feliz.

    I don’t think that has anything to do with the point he’s making Lunk. He’s not really arguing the worth of Beltre.

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  24. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 9:44 am (#1131016)

    I was more commentating on the statement he quoted than his own. I agree with him about the Red Sox philosophy vs the Mets.

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  26. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 9:46 am (#1131017)

    Beltre is better than Feliz…his bat was a positive value bat 2006 thru 2008

    Feliz’s bat is never positive

  27. Comment posted by C needs a LOWenbrau on January 6, 2010 at 9:51 am (#1131018)

    FUNDIES!!!

    GA Tech = 1 trick pony. Thanks DL. ;)

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  29. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 9:54 am (#1131019)

    Iowa dresses like the steelers. pooftahs

  30. Comment posted by C needs a LOWenbrau on January 6, 2010 at 9:55 am (#1131020)

    I’m on FI-YAH!!!

    Bama on Thursday to cap a BE-YOU-TI-FULL bowl season for C.

  31. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 9:55 am (#1131021)

    Beltre isn’t really a step up from Lowell.

    I don’t see where his value is all that great for the BoSox.

    Also, the problem with the Mets having 2 second basemen as opposed to Boston carrying 3 third basement stems from the fact that in our case neither Hudson or (especially Castillo) can shift to any other defensive position on an NL team with no DH.

  32. Comment posted by C needs a LOWenbrau on January 6, 2010 at 9:55 am (#1131022)

    Iowa dresses like the steelers. pooftahs

    other way around homey!

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  34. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 9:56 am (#1131023)

    hahahaha

    cute

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  36. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 9:57 am (#1131024)

    other way around homey!

    LOL

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  38. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 9:58 am (#1131025)

    If Beltre hits, he destroys Lowell’s value

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  40. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 9:59 am (#1131026)

    uhhhh wutttttt

    UMich picked the Domino’s Pizza CEO to become their next AD????

    that’s just weird

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  42. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:00 am (#1131027)

    hahaha for DL

    I guess dLee is a marked man by deadspin

  43. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:01 am (#1131028)

    If Beltre hits, he destroys Lowell’s value

    I don’t see where his OPS+ is so much greater than Lowell’s the last 3 years. Granted, Beltre will definately play more games.

  44. Comment posted by C needs a LOWenbrau on January 6, 2010 at 10:01 am (#1131029)

    Hawkeyes football program est. 1889
    Steelers franchise est 1933

    bitahz

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  46. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:02 am (#1131030)

    I don’t see where his OPS+ is so much greater than Lowell’s the last 3 years. Granted, Beltre will definately play more games.

    and beltre is a god defensively

  47. Comment posted by Danny on January 6, 2010 at 10:03 am (#1131031)

    Roster building in the AL is just easier to do with the DH spot to fall back on.

  48. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:04 am (#1131032)

    and beltre is a god defensively

    Lowell isn’t that bad either. But Beltre is a way more capable baserunner.

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  50. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:04 am (#1131033)

    ya, tis true

    who knows what lowell is gonna be in 2010…hopefully not a met! hahahahaa

    dude may be doneskis…who knows if texas just didnt want him or if he truly failed the physical for a real issue

  51. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:05 am (#1131034)

    Roster building in the AL is just easier to do with the DH spot to fall back on.

    Word.

  52. Comment posted by C needs a LOWenbrau on January 6, 2010 at 10:05 am (#1131035)

    btw, trivial but interesting piece in paper today.

    This year is called “twenty-ten” not “two thousand ten”

    So whenever someone calls it “two thousand ten” please correct them.

    I was born in “nineteen seventy six” not “one thousand nine hundred and seventy six”

    The last decade f’d us up. Keep it reelz yo!

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  54. Comment posted by TLC on January 6, 2010 at 10:07 am (#1131036)

    Roster building in the AL is just easier to do with the DH spot to fall back on.

    So very so.

    BTW, I hate Maytag and home depot and the bleeps who tried to fix my washer. Spending time today at home trying to get a resolution to my broke washer. Under warrenty and it has been a lemon since we got it. Home Depot wants to have Maytag pay for a new one so they dont have to pay for a new one. This is stupid.

  55. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:08 am (#1131037)

    To me, the question is:

    Cameron/Beltre , or = to Bay/Lowell?

    It seems as if the BoSox traded some power to get faster and better defensively. I applaud their FO move considering their choice not to be pressured into the Bay sweepstakes.

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  57. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:08 am (#1131038)

    Quote:
    Carlos Zambrano’s name continues to surface in trade rumors, while the Cubs continue to deny that he’s available.

    The latest report out of New York, from the Post’s Joel Sherman, cited two AL officials as saying the Cubs are “definitely dangling” Zambrano, while also conceding he won’t waive his no-trade clause.

    If Zambrano won’t waive his no-trade clause, why are the Cubs even listening to offers?

    General manager Jim Hendry declined to discuss the report, or a previous report that the New York Yankees approached him about Zambrano before acquiring Javier Vazquez from Atlanta, reiterating he doesn’t discuss trade talks.

    As for Zambrano’s future with the Cubs, Hendry simply said: “He’s got full no-trade rights, which he negotiated into his contract. I fully expect him to come back in 2010 and pitch like the old ‘Big Z.'”

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  59. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:08 am (#1131039)

    The Mets see too many hurdles to a trade for Carlos Zambrano: 1) Their scouting reports on him from last year were that his fastball and changeup were both not as effective as in previous seasons. 2) They sense that Cubs executives are canvassing what teams might be willing to make a trade for Zambrano, but have serious doubts that Zambrano would actually waive his no-trade clause. 3) Zambrano makes $18 million annually for at least the next three years, and even if the Cubs were willing to take Castillo, the Mets do not think that is enough of a financial counterweight. And the Mets do not think the Cubs are willing to eat salary on Zambrano.

  60. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:09 am (#1131040)

    Why can’t we use “less than” and “greater than” signs here?

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  62. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:10 am (#1131041)

    because they are the code for the formatting HTML shit…blockquote, etc.

  63. Comment posted by Danny on January 6, 2010 at 10:12 am (#1131042)

    I obviously liked Holliday better than Bay and he’s certainly more valuable, but I have to say that Holliday’s deal is crazy. He got a better deal than Beltran in a worse environment. That’s crazy.

    Plus, Holliday has old people skills like Bay, right??? **wink wink**

  64. Comment posted by Rave on January 6, 2010 at 10:12 am (#1131043)

    I get the point: “sunk cost” has to be introduced in the SOF’s vocabulary.
    That said, Cdog’s point glosses over the fact that we kill Omar for Luis, but dreamy Theo gave Lowell that contract that he is now likely to eat. He’s had a few of those: last year alone, he had Crisp, Smoltz and Penny being paid to play for other teams.
    I don’t get the $10m for Beltre either. He’s as big a health gamble as Lowell (or Delgado), and I don’t think anyone else was offering that much guaranteed money.

    Like I said, Boras is good. Now, let’s see if he can find a nice home for Damon.

  65. Comment posted by C needs a LOWenbrau on January 6, 2010 at 10:13 am (#1131044)

    just type “c” for less than and “ramon” for greater than

  66. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:14 am (#1131045)

    6.3 WAR for Bay/Lowell projected by fangraphs

    4.1 WAR for Cameron/Beltre

  67. Comment posted by dogcatcher on January 6, 2010 at 10:15 am (#1131046)

    Re Z:

    And he’s a massive ahole w a total lack of professionalism …just the kind of guy we dont need and wouldnt consider except we are in this “spot”. Why? Bc Omar overspent on Ollie, bc we “needed” a pitcher then..its like dominos, Omar plays “plug the hole” – given our resources, there is no reason we shouldnt eat castillo’s K, and sign Odog. or trade for harang and Phillips..what’s the difference between that and an expensive FA signing?

    Get players who are athletic, younger and can build around

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  69. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:15 am (#1131047)

    Boras is amazing

    he usually fucks up one client an offseason and screws them outta money….damon is the likely candidate

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  71. Comment posted by Peter H on January 6, 2010 at 10:16 am (#1131048)

    Anyone notice that the links haven’t been updated since last week?

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  73. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 10:17 am (#1131049)

    Beltre is better than Feliz…his bat was a positive value bat 2006 thru 2008

    Beltre just strikes me as a guy who is seriously on the decline offensively. He has a similar skill set offensively to Feliz in that neither walk. Beltre has a little more power and a little more average (and walks a little more than Feliz) so I was kind of overstating my case. But they are not entirely dissimilar players.

  74. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:17 am (#1131050)

    just type “c” for less than and “ramon” for greater than

    :-(

  75. Comment posted by Rave on January 6, 2010 at 10:17 am (#1131051)

    Sherman had a good Mets lineup suggestion yesterday: 1. Reyes. 2. Wright. 3. Beltran. 4. Bay. 5. Delgado. 6. Francoeur. 7. Molina. 8. Castillo.

    I would prefer Not Molina is batting 7th, but that’s a darn good lineup.

  76. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:19 am (#1131052)

    I like Franceour in front of Molina! That way Molina won’t hit into as many GBDPs with Frenchy striking out in front of him so much!

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  78. Comment posted by TLC on January 6, 2010 at 10:19 am (#1131053)

    The link dump is the only thing posted here and it hasnt been updated for a week.

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  80. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:20 am (#1131054)

    the script must be broken

    i’ll let thems know

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  82. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:20 am (#1131055)

    Castillo n Delgado are going to make me cry

    how can a professional baseball team expect to be taken seriously with that right side of an infield….that will destroy my hope b4 we even start

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  84. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 10:21 am (#1131056)

    Sherman had a good Mets lineup suggestion yesterday: 1. Reyes. 2. Wright. 3. Beltran. 4. Bay. 5. Delgado. 6. Francoeur. 7. Molina. 8. Castillo.

    I don’t mind it. I really want Castillo in the 8 hole. I went as many RBI opportunities taken away from him as possible.

  85. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:23 am (#1131057)

    No way that Omar allows Castillo to start at 2nd. He has to know that our infield defense needs to be sured up on the right side–especially if Delgado signs. To me, the fact that the Mets want to possibly sign Delgado is proof that Hudson is indispensible to their plans with his supposed range to his left.

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  87. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 10:24 am (#1131058)

    hahahh USA Junior Hockey: badasses.

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  89. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 10:24 am (#1131059)

    Ack. That link fucked up. Here it is.

  90. Comment posted by Danny on January 6, 2010 at 10:25 am (#1131060)

    ESPN is currently referencing WAR in regards to the Holliday signing.

  91. Comment posted by dogcatcher on January 6, 2010 at 10:25 am (#1131061)

    That said, Cdog’s point glosses over the fact that we kill Omar for Luis, but dreamy Theo gave Lowell that contract that he is now likely to eat. He’s had a few of those: last year alone, he had Crisp, Smoltz and Penny being paid to play for other teams.

    I don’t get the $10m for Beltre either. He’s as big a health gamble as Lowell (or Delgado), and I don’t think anyone else was offering that much guaranteed money.

    The point I was making was a philosophical one. We react too much, Boston plans. They like the value offered by Beltre and didnt let the current roster construction stand in the way. Could bomb – you are right – but could pay off big (I actually think he might have juiced that year for LA)

    In any event, I actually didnt kill Minaya for signing Castillo, but he did misread the market. We could have had Eckstein for a fraction of the commitment.

    I dont see eating $6 mil for Castillo over the next two years (I think hes worth $3M) and signing Odog or trading for Phillips an unreasonable goal, particularly when we expect Pelfrey (GB pitcher) to be a key contributor

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  93. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:25 am (#1131062)

    OOOH OOOH

    lets play this game again

    HEY LUNK – LOOK UP 36 posts

  94. Comment posted by Joe A. on January 6, 2010 at 10:29 am (#1131063)

    No doubt Omar wants to move Castillo, but it comes down to whether the Mets are willing to eat that contract – and so far it looks like they aren’t.

    There has to be another bad contract out there that we would be willing to take on to move Castillo.

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  96. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:30 am (#1131064)

    C

    Percy Harvin wins Offensive Rookie of the Year

  97. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:30 am (#1131065)

    HAHAHA. In my best Captain Obvious impersonation I want to state that we are still soooooooo top heavy.

    We have 3 dudes with projected WARs 5.0 and over (The core-Beltran, Reyes, Wright).

    1 with 4.0 (The supporter-Bay).

    And the rest assuming Benji signs and we stay with Murphy (Castillo: 1.5, Molina-1.4, Franceour-1.1, Murphy: 0.7)

    Sad that Castillo tops that bottom list, no?

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  99. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 10:30 am (#1131066)

    I hate games.

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  101. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:32 am (#1131067)

    hahaahahah Frenchy 1.1???? WHERE DO I SIGN!?!?

  102. Comment posted by dogcatcher on January 6, 2010 at 10:32 am (#1131068)

    Sherman had a good Mets lineup suggestion yesterday: 1. Reyes. 2. Wright. 3. Beltran. 4. Bay. 5. Delgado. 6. Francoeur. 7. Molina. 8. Castillo.

    Bay hit terrible in the 4 hole in Boston and they eventually moved him out..fyi everyone

    Id be just as happy with our 2B hitting second and sliding everyone down..maybe adding Nady as a 4th OF and 1B platoon partner..I still think we may trade Pagan, but Beltran cant be counted on for 150+ games

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  104. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:33 am (#1131069)

    the rotation’s even worse looking!

  105. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:33 am (#1131070)

    In any event, I actually didnt kill Minaya for signing Castillo, but he did misread the market. We could have had Eckstein for a fraction of the commitment.

    Understatement of the day. But I do think in fairnes to Omar that we should remember that Eckstein tried to fleece the Mets by asking for a 5 year deal when he had no other major interest at the time. That’s why he had to opt into signing that crappy 1 year deal with Toronto, if I remember correctly…

  106. Comment posted by Joe A. on January 6, 2010 at 10:34 am (#1131071)

    I don’t find WAR to be a particularly useful stat. And Projected WAR even less so.

    But the point about being top heavy is obviously true. The rotation is the same way.

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  108. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:35 am (#1131072)

    the biggest joke of all is that he put us in a position where we had to outbid the HOUSTON ASTROS for his services

    just kill me

  109. Comment posted by Danny on January 6, 2010 at 10:35 am (#1131073)

    Just pray for a good BABIP year. Or maybe not, because then we’ll give him like 4/40 or something.

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  111. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:35 am (#1131074)

    omar had the same deal ready to go for eck IIRC

  112. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:36 am (#1131075)

    Would you guys still take Church over Franceour at this stage in the game?

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  114. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 10:37 am (#1131076)

    Would you guys still take Church over Franceour at this stage in the game?

    Defensively, yes. Offensively, Church seems to never have recovered his power stroke after the concussions.

  115. Comment posted by Danny on January 6, 2010 at 10:37 am (#1131077)

    Bay hit terrible in the 4 hole in Boston and they eventually moved him out..fyi everyone

    I DO think this is important, if a player has a mental issue in a particular batting spot. No one should change their approach too much for a particular spot but it definitely happens. Plus, we all know the lineup is going to be something more like

    Reyes
    Castillo
    Wright
    Beltran
    Bay
    Delgado
    Francouer
    Molina
    Pitcher

    Frenchy/Molina/Pitcher will make for some nice 6 pitch innings.

  116. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:37 am (#1131078)

    omar had the same deal ready to go for eck IIRC

    Craziness. Only further shows how badly he misread the market and how greedy Eckstein was not to jump all over it.

  117. Comment posted by Joe A. on January 6, 2010 at 10:38 am (#1131079)

    Well maybe Omar is learning. $6 million per year for Castillo isn’t terrible – its the 4 year commitment that never made any sense. It seems like he is really taking a hard line on contract length these days, so that’s something.

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  119. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:38 am (#1131080)

    I just have this feeling we’re going to trade for Gil Meche…dont ask me why….but i do.

    Take Frenchy!

  120. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 10:39 am (#1131081)

    Reyes

    Castillo

    Wright

    Beltran

    Bay

    Delgado

    Francouer

    Molina

    Pitcher

    I hate this lineup to all hell.

    And I still can’t believe the Mets would allow Castillo AND Delgado to occupy the same infield. They know both players are injury riddled and hobbling on damaged goods to be counted on out there.

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  122. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:39 am (#1131082)

    I dont think Omar ever made the offer, i think he changed his mind or something and went the castillo route

    i just remember they had dinner and reading he had a deal ready to go

    i dont quite remember how it shook out

  123. Comment posted by bcuster on January 6, 2010 at 10:39 am (#1131083)

    Notre Dame freshman forward Kyle Palmieri was a big part of that incredible US victory in the junior championships last night.

    that game is typical of the kind of excitement you see in high level amateur hockey.

    if only the nhl marketed better and streamlined out some of their tanking franchises; hockey could easily surpass basketball as the #1 winter sport in the US

  124. Comment posted by C needs a LOWenbrau on January 6, 2010 at 10:40 am (#1131084)

    If we are concerned about Frenchy and Molina then we have much bigger problems.

    We said the same thing when we got Snido.

    WS with Timo et al
    NLCS with Green et al

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  126. Comment posted by TLC on January 6, 2010 at 10:41 am (#1131085)

    Would you guys still take Church over Franceour at this stage in the game?

    Yes and only because we could of cut ties with Church without having to justify shit. Our GM and ownership, once Frenchy did well, would have had to justified why they let him go after he “proved” (used very very loosely) that he needed a change of scenery. The org just doesnt want to make tough calls like releasing their best player in the second half despite there not being proof he can duplicate said performance. I would of just let him go.

  127. Comment posted by Joe A. on January 6, 2010 at 10:43 am (#1131086)

    Well Church is still out there. He was mentioned as a possible 4th OF for the Cards.

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  129. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:43 am (#1131087)

    Frenchy n Molina are big problems though

    they’re going to be black holes for this team and see a total of 10 pitches a game, combined

  130. Comment posted by Joe A. on January 6, 2010 at 10:44 am (#1131088)

    If some team signed Gomes and Church as a platoon, I bet they would get pretty solid production at a bargain price.

  131. Comment posted by dogcatcher on January 6, 2010 at 10:45 am (#1131089)

    Ramon

    You are abs correct; in fact, it was after the Eckstein dinner that Omar turned back to Castillo.
    Maybe thats why he “waits” now.

    I remember Castillo on Florida as a pest and a GG. We didnt get that version – and many think he had a bad impact on reyes, tho I always wonder if that’s just racial BS. In any event. Eck is a gamer, and w have certainly signed for less than what we gave Castillo. Or Omar could have tendered both at the same time – maybe he should have done that with Bay and holliday

    One could argue by not pursuing Holliday, and offering Bay early, the Mets “anchored” Bay’s value, rather than let Holliday sign first and est a higher ceiling.

  132. Comment posted by Danny on January 6, 2010 at 10:46 am (#1131090)

    It seems like he is really taking a hard line on contract length these days, so that’s something.

    I don’t know if I entirely agree with this. I mean, he certainly seems slightly more inflexible, but now he’s fallen in love with vesting options that are only not obtainable if disaster strikes in the final year before the vesting option. Contrary to our experience, not every older player completely falls apart from a health standpoint at the end of their contracts. Sometimes just their production suffers. But we’re not protected against that.

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  134. Comment posted by TLC on January 6, 2010 at 10:47 am (#1131091)

    I think Winn/Gomes would be an awesome platoon for a small mrk team

  135. Comment posted by Joe A. on January 6, 2010 at 10:48 am (#1131092)

    Olney was trying to pawn Winn off on the Mets last week. I’m not a big fan.

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  137. Comment posted by TLC on January 6, 2010 at 10:49 am (#1131093)

    winn has no place with the mets. Olney is an idiot. He is small mrkt talent anyway at this point

  138. Comment posted by Joe A. on January 6, 2010 at 10:53 am (#1131094)

    He is small mrkt talent anyway at this point

    Winn or Olney?

    I think Olney wanted the Mets to sign Winn instead of Bay. And, iirc, Cerrone agreed with that plan.

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  140. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:54 am (#1131095)

    Winn or Olney?

    haha SCORE

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  142. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on January 6, 2010 at 10:54 am (#1131096)

    I wouldn’t mind Winn if we traded Pagan. But only in the 4th outfielder, backup centerfielder role.

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  144. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 10:55 am (#1131097)

    cerrone thinks pitching is a’coming next week

  145. Comment posted by MyFavoriteBaseballSquadron on January 6, 2010 at 10:57 am (#1131098)

    Interesting that Gordon says DiPi has been consistent when this article highlights that Ricky has played all of 5 games during Gordo’s tenure.

  146. Comment posted by Ramon on January 6, 2010 at 11:00 am (#1131099)

    Yes and only because we could of cut ties with Church without having to justify shit. Our GM and ownership, once Frenchy did well, would have had to justified why they let him go after he “proved” (used very very loosely) that he needed a change of scenery. The org just doesnt want to make tough calls like releasing their best player in the second half despite there not being proof he can duplicate said performance. I would of just let him go.

    Good reason. I see noone is optimistic that Franceour will ever be above average or that the Mets FO will be smart enough to identify this once contract time comes up.

    Over and under on when Omar offers an extension in the middle of season?

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  148. Comment posted by Dep on January 6, 2010 at 11:01 am (#1131100)

    I hope they have the balls to give F! a shot if Frenchy reverts to his replacement level blumpkin by July

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