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December 20, 2009
  
Link Dump: December 20th, 2009

[08:12 AM] Newsday: Sunday reading: Johnny Damon, Matt Holliday, Citi Field and Mike Lowell
[06:11 PM] Newsday: Davidoff: Is Citi Field holding back Mets’ pursuit of hitters?

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52 Responses to “Link Dump: December 20th, 2009”

  1. Comment posted by Amazin_Mel725 on December 20, 2009 at 1:05 am (#1125267)

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAVID !!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Comment posted by Dave in Spain on December 20, 2009 at 3:51 am (#1125268)

    Everyone be safe and enjoy the snow!
    (ps- #1–not my birthday…)

  3. Comment posted by Dave in Spain on December 20, 2009 at 7:46 am (#1125269)

    Garland or Marquis for a #3 starter? Basically the same pitcher statistically, though Garland is one year younger, and more of a ground ball pitcher.
    Johan, Arroyo/Harang, Garland/Marquis, Pelfrey, Maine/Ollie

  4. Comment posted by Dave in Spain on December 20, 2009 at 7:49 am (#1125270)

    RE- catchers
    No way should Molina get 3 years– 1 plus a club option would be my preference. That said, he´s clearly better than any of the other FA catchers offensively (admittedly, not a great selection…). This year his OBP was much lower than his career avg, but still 20-30 pts higher than Barajas. And his avg and power are more consistent than the others too.

  5. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 8:52 am (#1125271)

    No way should Molina get 3 years– 1 plus a club option would be my preference. That said, he´s clearly better than any of the other FA catchers offensively (admittedly, not a great selection…). This year his OBP was much lower than his career avg, but still 20-30 pts higher than Barajas. And his avg and power are more consistent than the others too.

    Not that I’m advocating giving Molina a 3 year contract, but in his defense, he was also the Giants cleanup hitter last season, and wore down the end of the year from overuse.

    I also think adding Bay and Molina and possibly Delgado to our lineup would give us one of the best lineups in the NL if everyone is healthy.

  6. Comment posted by Dave in Spain on December 20, 2009 at 8:58 am (#1125272)

    Bay and Molina yes. Not sure about Delgado–it might be time to move on. If the Mets want to change the clubhouse culture a little, then they need to change some players, right?

  7. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 9:05 am (#1125273)

    If Delgado is healthy we could do a lot worse than a Delgado/Murphy 1B tandeem. The extra rest would do Delgado good, plus it would be great to have Delgado’s power bat able to come off the bench.

    Another point about Molina, while he batted cleanup for the Giants last season, he would most likely bat 6-8 in the Mets lineup next year, if the Mets sign both Bay & Molina.

  8. Comment posted by WT Economist on December 20, 2009 at 9:09 am (#1125274)

    I think the Mets should make a play for Johnny Damon.

    For 2010, if the Mets stars are healthy, they can compete with Damon/Pagan. If they are not, they’ll lose with Bay or Holliday. I believe those players are overpriced simply because the free agent class is thin.

    Going forward, I believe the Mets need to develop their own players, and in any event the 2011 free agent class is stronger. Some of those free agents may be available in deadline deals. Would the Mets pass on a chance to get Mauer to sign Bay. It is possible that one or two of Murphy, F-Mart and I. Davis might be solid starters by mid-year 2010, or trade bait for those 2011 free agents if they start strong.

    Damon at one year or, at most, two, would not block those other options. And like Francouer, even more so perhaps, he could bring a good attitude.

    As for power, Murphy hit 12 HR in about 2/3 the average number of at bats. Full time I’m confident in 15+, platooned with Evans 20+. Damon would also be good for 15. Beltran gives you 25, and with protection in the line-up, so does Wright. If Francouer can do 20, you’ve got 100 from five players, on the way to a 130 HR team. Not a power team, but not bad for Citi-Field.

  9. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 9:14 am (#1125275)

    I don’t want any part of Johnny Damon. He is 36 years old and if he couldn’t come to an agreement with the Yankees on a 1 or 2 year deal, what makes you think he would for the Mets? Not too mention he plays terrible defense, and lacks the Mets most pressing need of power.

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  11. Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on December 20, 2009 at 9:54 am (#1125276)

    you think Damon’s arm can’t reach the infield at Skankee Stadium?
    ha! wait til he tries it at Citi!

    Damon is great for the clubhouse, but otherwise a horrible fit for the Mets

  12. Comment posted by Dave in Spain on December 20, 2009 at 10:53 am (#1125277)

    Matt Damon?

  13. Comment posted by Dave in Spain on December 20, 2009 at 11:25 am (#1125278)

    If there´s any reluctance on the part of FAs to sign with the Mets, it isn´t due to the park or 2009. Rather, it´d be due to:

    1)the perception that the organization is poorly managed,
    2) that the manager and GM are on the hot seat, which would result in a stressful and unsettled work environment
    3) that the owners aren´t committed to winning (a view perpetuated by the media)
    4) the constant negative media scrutiny by a HUGE media contingent

    That said, right now the delay in signing Bay and Molina is simply them holding out for more money and looking for leverage. And the non-pursuit of Holliday is more due to Boras´ ridiculous asking price and usual very slow decision making process, which would leave a team losing out on Holliday with few remaining options.

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  15. Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on December 20, 2009 at 12:10 pm (#1125279)

    Dave-

    I was thinking of you last night (no NH). I watched Vicky Christina Barcelona.
    Terrific movie….and worth it alone for the kiss between Penelope Cruz & Scarlett Johansson :)

    And after that movie, Spain definitely has moved up on my list of places to visit….
    I’ll certainly look you up whenever I get there!

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  17. Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on December 20, 2009 at 12:15 pm (#1125280)

    the perception that the organization is poorly managed

    I remember years ago when Mike Mussina signed with the Yankees as a FA.
    He said one the reasons he didn’t consider the Mets (who had made a bid)
    was that they didn’t have a pitching coach in place that winter!

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  19. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on December 20, 2009 at 12:26 pm (#1125281)

    We all know that’s Mussina-talk for “The Yankees offered me more money.”

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  21. Comment posted by TLC on December 20, 2009 at 12:48 pm (#1125282)

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAVID !!!!!!!!!!!

    David Wright is probably having a threesome with some girl and his boyfriend somewhere right now

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  23. Comment posted by Dep on December 20, 2009 at 1:00 pm (#1125283)

    that’s just mean chris

    DW wouldnt do gay stuff

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  25. Comment posted by Dep on December 20, 2009 at 1:06 pm (#1125284)

    haha, offensive PI

    i have roddy white on my team though

    go jets. dont like this matchup today. wish ryan n turner werent playing

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  27. Comment posted by Dep on December 20, 2009 at 1:08 pm (#1125285)

    hey kerry rhodes did something good

    that’s odd

  28. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 1:18 pm (#1125286)

    Kinda disturbing news from MLBTRADERUMORS –

    Bill Madden of the New York Daily News writes that Jason Bay can thank his agent, Joe Urbon, for pricing him out of a good situation in Boston. With no obvious bidders remaining for Bay besides the New York Mets, Madden says that Urbon returned to the Red Sox to see if they would revisit negotiations with Bay. The Sox, however, having signed Mike Cameron, no longer appear interested.

    Madden thinks that Bay’s reluctance to accept the Mets’ four-year, $64MM offer suggests the outfielder is wary of playing in Citi Field for a team that “even with him, looks to be no better than a third-place club.” Newsday’s Ken Davidoff agrees that Citi Field could be a factor, as the Mets pursue Bay and other free agents. Davidoff points out that, statistically, the park doesn’t seem all that bad for hitters, but it’s hard to shake that perception.

  29. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 1:23 pm (#1125287)

    Maybe Jose Reyes (who use to play with Jason Bay in the minors) or David Wright (Mr. Mets team captain dude) should reach out to Jason Bay.

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  31. Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on December 20, 2009 at 1:41 pm (#1125288)

    Madden thinks that Bay’s reluctance to accept the Mets’ four-year, $64MM offer suggests the outfielder is wary of playing in Citi Field for a team that “even with him, looks to be no better than a third-place club.”

    Oh pluhleeeez…..Bill Madden, that great sportswriter and 24/7 Yankee shill who absolutely HATES, HATES the Mets.

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  33. Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on December 20, 2009 at 1:43 pm (#1125289)

    Bay has told at least reporter that while his preference is Seattle (understandable, his wife is from there),
    he has friends on the Mets (Reyes included) and said he’d have no problem playing for them or at CitiField.

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  35. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on December 20, 2009 at 1:44 pm (#1125290)

    Is this where Bay expresses that he’s a life long Marlins fan?

  36. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 1:48 pm (#1125291)

    While I hope you’re correct MSFS71, you do have to wonder why his agent has had ZERO contact with the Mets since their offer was made.

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  38. Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on December 20, 2009 at 1:48 pm (#1125292)

    Lunk. I’m just sick of these haters in the NY media like Madden.
    It’s like they’re just making shit up now.

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  40. Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on December 20, 2009 at 1:50 pm (#1125293)

    SuperT – who says there’s been no contact? The media? His agent? The Mets? The agent’s dry cleaner?

    Don’t believe everything you read! :)

  41. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 1:50 pm (#1125294)

    I LOVE the Jets Defense. Mark Sanchez’s development is the only thing holding the Jets back right now.

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  43. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on December 20, 2009 at 1:51 pm (#1125295)

    Well, they’re trying to fill a vacuum and don’t care if they stretch the truth to gain a reader or two.

  44. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 1:55 pm (#1125296)

    Yeah, all we have to go on is what we read, so it is all of our guess if there has been anymore contact or not. You do have to admit though a lot of time has gone by since the Mets made their offer without a deal being struck is strange. Just like someone else said, last year at this time it was Derek Lowe who the Mets thought it was just a matter of time before he finally took their offer, and we all know *thankfully* how that turned out.

  45. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 2:07 pm (#1125297)

    Speaking of Derek Lowe or more specifically the Braves and their desire to unload a SP. The proposed rumor of Javier Vazquez to the Angels was shot down apparently by Javier himself because he didn’t want to leave the East coast. Too bad OM, couldn’t work the deal into a 3 team deal, as Vazquez would look alot better than Marquis, Garland, or Davis as a #2 SP on the Mets.

  46. Comment posted by cp on December 20, 2009 at 2:09 pm (#1125298)

    I wouldn’t get too worked up over the delay particularly if it gives the club a chance to sniff around Holliday for 6 years + an option.

    I seem to remember Yankee fans screaming around this time last year that the Yanks should pull their offer from CC because he was taking so long to decide. That seemed to work out okay for them in the end.

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  48. Comment posted by Dep on December 20, 2009 at 2:09 pm (#1125299)

    brittany murphy died apparently yikes

  49. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 2:12 pm (#1125300)

    I would rather have Bay than Holliday, CP. Most likely cheaper, proven in a big market, and not such a home/road split in stats, but I get your point.

  50. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 2:13 pm (#1125301)

    How, Dep?

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  52. Comment posted by Dep on December 20, 2009 at 2:14 pm (#1125302)

    drugs most likely. we’ll see

    http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/20/brittany-murphy-dies-cardiac-arrest/

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  54. Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on December 20, 2009 at 2:17 pm (#1125303)

    holy shit, deppers….you’re right, cardiac arrest at age 32

    very sad, I liked her

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  56. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on December 20, 2009 at 2:26 pm (#1125304)

    Yeah, saw her in a few straight to video movies lately that went straight to SyFy channel. She was looking pretty strung out.

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  58. Comment posted by The Mad Stork on December 20, 2009 at 2:28 pm (#1125305)

    That chick’s been lookin strung out for a long time now. I don’t pay any attention to her career, but any time I’ve seen her over the last few years, she’s looked dangerously skinny and just plain out of it. Awful way to go.

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  60. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on December 20, 2009 at 2:31 pm (#1125306)

    Yep. So typical. Lots of promise, brief stardom, utter flame out, and then death from drug abuse.

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  62. Comment posted by The Mad Stork on December 20, 2009 at 2:36 pm (#1125307)

    What was the snow like in DC, Lunk? I still don’t know any official totals, but judging from how far it went up my leg, I’d say we got about 10″ here in Central, NJ. Got a good day to do some shoveling though. Nice and sunny.

  63. Comment posted by Dave in Spain on December 20, 2009 at 2:38 pm (#1125308)

    Dep, were you at JPS when Brittney Murphy was there?

  64. Comment posted by Dave in Spain on December 20, 2009 at 2:41 pm (#1125309)

    Mfs71- If you end up coming over to Spain definately let me know. It´d be great to meet you. Raising a glass of cava while eating paella on a restaurant terrace overlooking a topless beach…. Nice thoughts for a snowbound day!

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  66. Comment posted by Lunkwill Fook on December 20, 2009 at 2:53 pm (#1125310)

    Storky, the official total was 16.6″ but I think we got more than that here. Probably close to two feet.

  67. Comment posted by Dave in Spain on December 20, 2009 at 2:58 pm (#1125311)

    BTW- I don´t like foxsports.com´s website redesign. Nice colors, but harder to find stuff, with less content on the front mlb page. And how could they launch the upgrade without troubleshooting all the internal links beforehand? Try to do a player stat search and it´s just impossible…haven´t they heard of beta-testing?

  68. Comment posted by Super T on December 20, 2009 at 2:59 pm (#1125312)

    Agreed Dave, can’t find anything there anymore either.

  69. Comment posted by Dave in Spain on December 20, 2009 at 3:03 pm (#1125313)

    Interesting. Bloomberg is getting into baseball stat analytics. 26 teams have signed up for a 6 month trial. A consumer version for fantasy players will be available in the spring.
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2009-12-15-technology-report_N.htm

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  71. Comment posted by DL on December 20, 2009 at 4:09 pm (#1125314)

    i hope the giants can match the jets performance tomorrow

    wow, ny sports minus the yankees are pathetic

  72. Comment posted by bcuster on December 20, 2009 at 6:57 pm (#1125315)

    any east coast weather talk? i had heard midatlantic had been hammered.

    would you like any indiana snow storm tips?

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  74. Comment posted by DL on December 20, 2009 at 7:31 pm (#1125316)

    lol @ mike tomlin

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  76. Comment posted by DL on December 20, 2009 at 7:51 pm (#1125317)

    steelers win anyhow wtf pack

  77. Comment posted by BOB A. BOOEY on December 20, 2009 at 10:04 pm (#1125318)

    wow ,,
    tomlin < lil jerry ,,,

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