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November 26, 2008
   
The Daniel Murphy Dilemma
Gravatar by: Mike Newman on Nov 26, 2008 2:07 AM | Filed under: Articles

Daniel Murphy is going to be the Mets version of Rusty Greer and will quickly become a fan favorite for his ability to play the game. Greer’s career was cut short by injury, but he averaged .310 20 HR 100 RBI in his prime. I think Mets fans will be very pleased. Of course I said the same about Matt Murton a couple of years back for the Cubs.”

I wrote this in a piece after watching Murphy play a couple of games in Atlanta towards the end of the season. I was impressed with Murphy’s grit, and overall baseball IQ. What he lacks in raw talent, he makes up for with hustle and drive. I followed the Greer comparison with:

“Speaking of Murphy, would the Mets be satisfied if he became a similar player to the Braves’ Kelly Johnson? Johnson started out in the outfield with less initial success than Murphy, but was later successfully transitioned to the infield.”

Unfortunately for Mets fans, dreams of Murphy as a second baseman seem shattered as Omar Minaya recently announced the Mets intention of using him as a left fielder with an occasional start at first base to spell Carlos Delgado. What does this mean for Murphy’s value? It obviously takes a hit; a potential plus offensive second baseman now becomes a left fielder fighting to be league average.

With Beltran being one of the top offensive center fielders in the game, the Mets can handle one below average offensive corner. However, starting both Ryan Church and Daniel Murphy would be a drag on the offense; made worse by Minaya seemingly putting his faith in both Luis Castillo (third-worst at second base in 2008) and Brian Schneider (19th ranked catcher in 2008). This is not to say Murphy won’t one day be league average or better at the position, but the Mets want to win a World Series now, and I doubt it’s possible with the 24th ranked right fielder in baseball and a still developing Murphy.

I appreciate Mets fans having a soft spot for Ryan Church after the stellar start to his 2008 season. But his production took a huge hit post-concussion, hurting what was looking to be a breakout 2008 campaign. However, nothing in his history other than a couple of prolonged hot streaks point to Church becoming another Ryan Ludwick. As a former 14th-round pick, Church was arguably old for the league at every minor league level, developed a bad reputation with his previous organization which cost him playing time, and is rumored to be unhappy in New York. A team could do worse than .270/.350/.450 from right field, but can the Mets afford to take a chance on a healthy and productive Church knowing lingering effects from his concussion could still be an issue. And Daniel Murphy is no guarantee, either.

What are the Mets’ options? Upgrades are available, but at a price—only Bobby Abreu is a free agent, and Abreu ranked just 14th among right fielders in 2008. Below are a few options the Mets should consider through trade who have been rumored as available at one point or another and what it might take to get them. Players are ranked based on perceived value to the Mets versus what it will take to land the player.

Ryan Ludwick: The Cardinals seem to be looking to cash in on Ludwick’s monster 2008 as he is rumored to be the centerpiece in a handful of potential trades, including a deal to the Braves for Kelly Johnson. While Johnson seems like an awfully small haul for an outfielder with a .299/.375/.591 line, it may indicate an opening the Mets can exploit. Yes, Ludwick is thirty and has only one year as a starter under his belt, but the power is real even if his batting average falls back to the .275 range. With him under control for a few more years, he can be had through his prime. The major hitch is the Cardinals and Mets do not make great trade partners with the Cards looking for pitching and major-league-ready middle infield help. However, the Cardinals do like taking chances on pitchers similar to Heilman and may have an interest in him as a starter.

Potential Package: Jon Niese, Eddie Kunz, and a third player for Ryan Ludwick

Randy Winn: Surprisingly, Winn ranked fifth among all right fielders in 2008 leaving me scratching my head as to why he hasn’t found any suitors as of yet. With a .306/.363/.426 line, twenty-five steals, and plus defense, he would be a great fit in the two-hole. As an added bonus, he’s a free agent after the 2009 season, leaving Fernando Martinez and his .346/.388/.564 line in winter ball a clear path to New York should he break out in 2009 as I expect him to. Call me crazy, but if the Mets can shed Castillo in a package to the Giants, I would even consider bringing in Barry Zito if the Giants agreed to eat some of his salary.

Potential Package (No Zito): Aaron Heilman or Eddie Kunz/Mike Carp for Randy Winn

Potential Package (Inc. Zito): Eddie Kunz/Mike Carp/Luis Castillo/Ramon Castro for Randy Winn/Barry Zito/$18 million to bring Zito’s annual salary to $9 million.

Franklin Gutierrez (in a platoon with Church): Certainly not a sexy name to discuss in trade talk, but he can be had on the cheap, is already one of the better defensive right fielders in the game and is a player I can see developing along the lines of Mike Cuddyer, contributing a handful of 20+ home run seasons before all is said and done. Gutierrez is a great example of what happens when prospect overhype is mixed with undue organizational pressure, causing a player’s growth to be stunted. Still only 25, he could prove an asset in a platoon role with Church as he has hit lefties better than righties in his short career.

Potential Package: Eddie Kunz for Franklin Gutierrez

Of course Bobby Abreu is always an option in right as his consistency and all around game would fit in perfectly into the Mets plans. I do worry about the years being discussed for many of the thirty-something free agents available. I can see two to three years for Abreu, but four would be too much for the 34- year-old Abreu.

Click here to view Daniel Murphy’s career projection.


Read more articles by Mike Newman at Baseball Handyman. Mike grew up a Mets fan in the days of Straw and Doctor K and is excited to be the newest contributor to Metsgeek! Hit me up at BaseballHandyman@comcast.net with any comments or article ideas.

6 Responses to “The Daniel Murphy Dilemma”

  1. Comment posted by WilmerWillArriveSoon on November 26, 2008 at 7:25 am (#899080)

    I love your articles.
    That said, these trades are well thought out, and I’d do the Zito deal right now, except for maybe Castro.
    You forgot to mention Jose Guillen of the Royals. I am apparently in love with him(nh) because I just keep bringing him up, and he isn’t that bad.

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  3. Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on November 26, 2008 at 8:09 am (#899083)

    Jose Guillen:

    Can you say….lousy teammate and problem child?

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  5. Comment posted by Mike Newman on November 26, 2008 at 10:45 am (#899109)

    Thanks Wilmer! I’m already chomping at the bit for spring in the hope of Wilmer playing about a half mile from my home here in Savannah.

    As for Guillen, he was going to be included with Delmon Young, but I omitted them for a couple of reasons.

    With Guillen, his RF ranking was in the bottom five of all right fielders in baseball in 2008. At 12 million per, the Mets would possible be looking at a WORSE option than Church at likely double the price. At best, it’s a lateral movement and the Mets need an upgrade.

    Delmon Young is also being shopped by the Twins, and he’s a classic case of a truly elite prospects value being gutted by a couple of pretty solid seasons to begin a career. Many expected 30+ HR power from day one and it was just not realistic. However, I just couldn’t put a possible deal together in my mind without including Murphy. Since the article is essentially about Murphy, I didn’t see the point. The Twins strengths are also the Mets depth in the minors so they are just bad trade partners.

    Remember, if you like the Metsgeek pieces, go to my blog and sign up to receive it by email. Anything I can show my wife to prove this isn’t a waste of time is a huge plus! =)

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  7. Comment posted by sweetlew on November 26, 2008 at 12:10 pm (#899162)

    Murphy’s grit

    You did not just use grit? NOOOOOOO!

  8. Comment posted by Joe A. on November 26, 2008 at 12:32 pm (#899174)

    One problem with the Kelly Johnson comparison - Johnson started out as a SS, not an OF. Its not surprising he has been able to handle 2B adequately.

  9. Comment posted by MightyJoeOrsulak on November 27, 2008 at 3:46 am (#899367)

    It’s possible that Murph could be used to back up Castillo if Omar is foolish enough to actually count on Luis Castillo in 2009, and could keep the spot if he performs adequately. But yes, having poor and hideously uncreative management sucks.

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