Cream of the Crop
Rafael Furcal
AB HR SB AVE OBA SLG
2008 143 5 8 .357 .439 .573
Career 4636 83 259 .286 .352 .412
Furcal demonstrated two things during his Dodgers career: that he is still one of the top middle infielders in the game and that he is very brittle at this stage of his career. He missed almost the entire season with a sore back that recurred from 2007, and he also dealt with a sore knee that year as he struggled through one of the worst seasons of his career. He seemed to be healthy again in the playoffs, and if his price tag is limited a bit by the injuries, that could be to the benefit of teams trying to sign him. Something near a repeat of his 2005 offseason deal with the Dodgers in the neighborhood of three years and $30 million could be possible.
I doubt the Mets become major players for Furcal, both due to the fact that it would require him to make a position change, and because both Furcal and the Dodgers have shown a lot of interest in keeping him in Dodger blue. However, if I were running the Mets ship he’d be my top target for second base; Furcal rated as only average at shortstop last year, but his bat still carries very well for a middle infielder, his defense could possibly improve being shifted down the spectrum, and, if nothing else, all the cabs will stop him from getting new DWIs.
Orlando Hudson
AB HR SB AVE OBA SLG
2008 400 8 4 .305 .367 .450
Career 3119 68 42 .282 .346 .433
Hudson is bandied about as the solution around the Mets blogosphere, and to be honest, I just don’t see it. I can see how he is the best free agent available at second base, and I can see how the Mets need a second baseman, but those two don’t necessarily have to collide. Keep in mind, Hudson’s only three above average offensive seasons happened in Chase Field, a notorious hitter’s park. While he has Gold Gloves and the reputation that comes with them, his defense fell off a cliff last season by almost every metric: dead last among qualified NL second in The Hardball Times’ RZR, -4.9 runs in Chris Dial’s OPD, and he took a six-run hit in Baseball Prospectus’ FRAA, dropping down to 13. This could be a fluke, or it could just as easily be the end of his peak as a defender.
Match this with his solid but unspectacular hitting line, and you have a player who could be very good, but could just as easily turn into another Luis Castillo. I’d be afraid to offer Hudson more than three years, and I bet he’ll get at least five. I would let him find a different new home, hopefully with a GM who appreciates being called a pimp.
A Possible Fit?
Mark DeRosa
AB HR SB AVE OBA SLG
2008 505 21 6 .285 .376 .481
Career 2650 69 18 .279 .348 .422
The theory around Cub Town is that they’ll have around $130 milion committed before they try to re-sign Ryan Dempster and Kerry Wood. They also want to bring in a left-handed outfielder, which would probably put them somewhere near $160 million. One way the Cubs could reduce costs would be to entrust second base to Mike Fontenot and deal the versatile DeRosa and his $5.5 million contract away. DeRosa fits in well with the Dan Murphy move to second: Should he be unable to play it, DeRosa is a more-than-adequate second baseman. Should Murphy prove a solid second sacker, DeRosa could see some time in the outfield corners, come in as late-game replacement defensively, and see some time at second against southpaws.
While DeRosa had a career year, his value is probably not so high that the Mets would be unable to reach it. I think a Mike Carp/Nick Evans-Scott Schoeneweis package makes sense for both sides, with the Mets paying off Schoeneweis’s deal. As good as the Cubs were last year, they had nobody who could silence lefty bats out of the pen. Alternately, should you want a real yarn, the Cubs could deal Derrek Lee to the Giants for Matt Cain or Jonathan Sanchez, then turn around and get Carlos Delgado from the Mets for DeRosa and more goodies while the Mets sign Mark Teixiera.
Buying Low
Rickie Weeks
AB HR SB AVE OBA SLG
2008 475 14 19 .234 .342 .398
Career 1615 51 78 .245 .352 .406
The Brewers are caught between a rock and a hard place with most of their young talent suddenly becoming arbitration eligible; Weeks could get up around the $4 million mark this season, and after the last two campaigns they have every right to question whether he will be the long-term answer at second base.
The former second overall pick in the 2003 draft–remember the debate over whether he or Delmon Young would be better?—Weeks has been maddeningly inconsistent at the major league level, particularly on defense where he has made several headscratching errors over the last few years. However, he’ll be just 26 coming into this year, he flashes a ton of raw power and speed, and if his defense could be fixed, he could still become a really good ballplayer.
So why list him and not JJ Hardy? I don’t think the Mets have the bounty for Hardy. But for Weeks, I think probably two of Evans, Carp, Bobby Parnell, and Eddie Kunz could get this done, and the payoff could conceivably be worth it. Worst case scenario: if the Mets decide they can’t handle his fielding after a year, they could put him in left and see how his bat plays out there. Sliding down the defensive spectrum was the cure for BJ Upton, after all. And that meets my RaysGeek tie-in quota.
Freddy Sanchez
AB HR SB AVE OBA SLG
2008 569 9 0 .271 .298 .371
Career 2275 31 5 .300 .336 .417
Sanchez profiles as a high-average second baseman with mediocre defense and gap power. Pittsburgh is, despite the regime change, still Pittsburgh, and Sanchez will make $6.1 million coming off an abysmal season. He underwent offseason surgery after 2007 and struggled during the first half of the year, but hit 338/.370/.470 after the All-Star break.
I think Sanchez will wind up contributing about as much as Orlando Hudson will next season, to be honest. Coming off his poor season and being owed as much money as he is ($6.1 million, plus a $600,000 buyout next year, or an $8 million option), I think he’d be pretty eminently available if the Pirates were tossed something interesting. This one is also worth exploring.
Everyone Else Got Signed/For the Bench
Jeff Kent
AB HR SB AVE OBA SLG
2008 440 12 0 .280 .327 .418
Career 8498 377 94 .290 .356 .500
Kent is coming up on the end of what should probably be a Hall-of-Fame career; he’ll turn 41 in Spring Training next year, and its anyone’s guess whether he’ll even want to play next year. He still has a little pop and his formerly underrated defense has evaporated to merely solid, but he’d probably be a net positive at second base.
Of course, it doesn’t really matter, because he has bad “clubhouse chemistry” and the Mets again will not talk to him. But I’ll list him anyway. Maybe I’ll list him again next offseason too, just for giggles.
Mark Loretta/Mark Grudzielanek
Loretta:
AB HR SB AVE OBA SLG
2008 261 12 0 .280 .350 .383
Career 5631 76 46 .297 .361 .399
Grudzielanek:
AB HR SB AVE OBA SLG
2008 331 3 2 .299 .345 .399
Career 6942 90 131 .290 .332 .395
These two appear on each other’s similar batters list on Baseball-Reference over the last two years for a reason: they are just about the same player at this point. I side with Loretta because he’s a little bit younger, but there isn’t an appreciable difference.
Both will be free agents, either of them are solid enough options to hold down second base for a season or, should the Dan Murphy plan work out, spell him against tough left-handers and come in as defensive replacements. This is the least the Mets could do to fix second base.
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Say no to Furcal and O-Dog
I think we have to start assuming Murphy is gonna play LF and NOT 2B, i think the idea of him playing second is a dream not shared by mets mgmt at this time.
I would bring in a Loretta type and find a lefty like a Gotay to round it out.
cheap and productive, and move on to pitching pitching PITCHING.
Before we get a second baseman, we have to move Castillo. I think any discussion of rebuilding that position is pretty moot until Castillo is sent packing.
Who really anticipates that happening? I can already read the articles in late February about how good Castillo’s legs are feeling…
Castillo is our starter!
I smelt it right away after this season ended
Omar’s Ego > Mets Winning
I don´t think it´s about Omar´s ego at this point. I just think nobody will want Castillo, and the Mets won´t want to eat the contract.
sure it is, omar won’t admit he made a mistake and do what’s best for the club and purge that lump of dead weight any possible, including eating his whole contract.
Why did Omar feel the need to go give him an extra 4th year when NO ONE else was offering more than 3? EGO. he was so zoned in that he had the right player he ignored the obvious decline luis was on and the feasibility of handing out such a contract.
Murphy would not be playing exclusively 2nd in the AFL if the Mets were not at least considering him as an option.
Murphy has made 1 error in 10 games at 2B and has a 100% conversion rate on DPs in the AFL. He’s also batting .400. If he continues this level of performance, then even Met management might not be so stupid as not to put him there as the primary option in ‘09.
It’s funny, I was thinking about this the other day and here’s a name that occurred to me: Josh Barfield. True, he hasn’t been very good for the past two years for the Indians but as recently as 2006, when he was a rookie with the Padres, he put up a .280/.313/.423 line with good power and speed for a second baseman. Not spectacular numbers, but he was once regarded as a solid prospect and he’s still young enough to encourage hopes he can come close to reaching his potential. Because I don’t see the Mets making a high-priced move to bring in another 2B with Luis “ow, my aching knees” Castillo on the roster, I’d like to see the Mets take a flier out on him and see whether a change of scenery back to the NL would do him some good (as it did for another ex-Indian 2B traded to the other league, Brandon Phillips).
I’m almost positive Castillo will be moved. Especially given that “addition by subtraction” quote that one of the Mets execs threw out.
I think Dave is right; who’d want Castillo? But I wouldn’t be surprised to see him put up 400 at bats, .290 average, 25 stolen bases and adequate defense next year.
I like the Murphy option. Anyone know anything about his range at second base from the AFL?
First choice: Can Mets get AHern back?
SF might be an option for Castillo. They have a very young IF and could use some veteran presence. They also were 14th out of 16 teams in OBP this year.
On Wednesday´s link dump (first few posts)I suggested Castro, Castillo, and Delgado for Bengi Molina and Randy Winn. Reasons posted there.
I’m not sure I have the same confidence in Castillo being moved. It’s quite apparent that Manuel is not a Castillo guy, but Omar was already talking up Castillo’s chance to do much better this upcoming season based on his track record, and that last year was an aberration.
Could that just be GM silly talk designed to not give anything away and appear happy at every position? Sure. But I haven’t heard too much palaver this offseason in regards to Omar feeling particularly motivated to upgrade second base. He says Castilo might bounce back, and praises Easley and A Reyes’ contributions last year, while talking about holes in the OF and needing another “clutch” stick.
Castillo can be moved, but it’ll need to be a deal where you take back somebody else’s headache/bad contract.
You can always get rid of a player. The problem is that you use up a roster spot with whatever you take back. So sometimes it’s cheaper to keep her.
I think we have bigger–and simpler to address–problems than second base.
I’m rolling the dice on Murphy until he performs disasterously at the position for a long stretch of time.
As for AHern, jeez, I’d want Gotay back long before I’d want AndyHernandy.
a. he’s moving to LF for winter ball. if he’s being “considered” why move him to LF for WB???
b. Omar said it has nothing to do with team need and the decision to let him play 2nd was made a loooong time ago.
Furcal is past his prime and at theis point is another castillo