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August 29, 2008
Link Dump: August 29th, 2008
[07:37 AM] TCPalm: Boy falls onto baseball field in Philadelphia Most headlines aggregated by SportSpyder. Eric Simon has far too much time on his hands. He sleeps upside-down, keeps people as pets, and can be found on the internets at Amazin' Avenue or bothered directly at eric@metsgeek.com. 598 Responses to “Link Dump: August 29th, 2008”Leave a ReplyYou must be logged in to post a comment. |
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site slow to day.
cubs win.
they still have beer?
The Cubbies win….thhhhhhhhhhhhhe Cubbies win!
very slow, Confused. it’s driving me nuts!
do you like it when scraps rubs up and down against your leg?
Appropriate Timing:
HAHAHA. Send the Cubbies a bottle of wine and a fruit basket if they sweep tomorrow.
Mets need to win. Need to! Need to! Must!
Who doesn’t?
4 game series, Ramon. 2 more days of torture for the Phils!
Calloo! Callay!
I hope the Mets win the series against the Cubs next month. We need to send them a message.
Aside from that obvious need, there is also the issue of winning the last series in the schedule in a tight divisional race.
the shark’s first big league W. isn’t that special?
I’m having fun rooting for the Cubbies these four games! Go Fukudome son!
Ramon, Welcome back. Hope u had fun in Delgado’s hometown!
PJ, that place u hiked is awesome. I never got used to the dryness of the desert in Arizona. Good luck as you attempt to do that
I’m off to dinner. Big football game tonight so the restaurants are kinda dead until after the game so I am gonna take advantage of it. See u all later during the game
Go Mets
Here’s something that won’t make us happy if true…
from beerleaguer:
I did, thanks Chris. I recommend Aguadilla to anyone interested in catching rays on a Caribbean beach. I actually lived in a condo apartment complex co-owned by Carlos himself.
Rosenthal wrote this a day or two ago……
from BP hit list
The guy from Beerleaguer’s name is:
Spell it backwards.
enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK-9sU6PRoY&feature=related
BTW. The topic I am most interested in catching up on:
What is the general opinion here about Big Pelf’s health status and the number of innings the team should allow for him to pitch this year? Are the Mets overusing him or are his easier innings this year allowing him to glide towards more IP than the sabermetrical book would normally allow?
Pat, was it you?
I’m going to Chicago tomorrow morning for a wedding. Might try to get scalpers for Sunday’s game. Never been to Wrigley before.
Ramon it’s been determined by science that Pelf is good to go 8 innings a start from here on out
I think we’re all in agreement on that one
Nope, just picked up in it earlier and realized it was fake, but didn’t want to let any Philly fans know.
I learned earlier to tell you guys if I was up to anything.
hahahaha, don’t ask. i think we stopped talking about it :p
Ramon, we’ve debated that ad nauseum. Many of us are afraid of his overuse. I suggest ( when you have some time) go back and read some of the threads from a few days ago to see where we all stand.
Will Carroll:
I read your article Simons on the subject. I agree with your contention that it does not necessarily boil down to the number of pitches he throws but how those pitches are distributed per inning. 108 pitches over 8-9 IP don’t wear down on a pitcher like they do over 5 IP of work.
the weather is supposed to be great. i hope yo get the chance to experience wrigly. lots of fun
Oh now that I think about it there were some dissenting opinions, heh heh heh
You’ll love Wrigley, Lister. Especially because you’ll be rooting along with all the Cub fans. Makes it even better!
All you can reasonably hope for as far as I’m concerned is that Pelfrey does not pitch innings in games that are blowouts. Though what constitutes a blowout - given the lolpen - is up for debate. 7 runs is apparently not a blowout.
Long time no see Ramon, if that is you. It is, taint it?
The sad thing is that I don’t know what the Mets can do now to conserve Pelfrey? They are uberreliant on him, Santana and Perez with Maine out and Pedro a wildcard. If the pen were stronger it would also help, but it isn’t all that great either.
Its me Simons. Hows it hanging? To the left or the right?
Left Ramon, come on now
Word Simons. Word.
How close is Pelf to surpassing the Verducci Effect anyways?
Well good to see you. I’m out, I’ll be back for the game thread, I think.
The price to win is DAMAGE
Pelf will bear the burdens of our success
:-(
Custer will laugh….perhaps
hahahaha, it will be ok. pelfrey has an angel on his shoulder.
as scared as i am, i think we’re gonna luck out on this one
152.67 = Pelf 2007 IP (80 Minors/72.67 Majors)
163 = Pelf Current IP
182.67 is the danger line per the +30IP thingy
what does have 6 more starts? say even 6 per = 36 = 199 IP b4 october
AND…some folks say minor league innings do NOT convert on a 1:1 basis for this whole thing, cuz they are easier innings than major league ones. good for us pelfrey struggled in the minors in 2007, not even kidding, that may help.
LOLPEN
tuesday night was the night we won the division! chew on that one! :P
uh oh, PJ is on too.
you better run!
Wtf with the blockquotes? I’ve lost my mind!! I used to be so good at them, too. :-(
Also, to state and restate the obvious, the Verducci effect isn’t necessarily to be taken as gospel at the unit of the individual player. Pelfrey has every chance to hold up well IMO. He’s strong like bull, has an “easy” delivery, doesn’t throw a lot of breaking balls.
I think he’ll be fine, and we don’t really have any other choice but that to put him out there as of now. Maybe the Philth will lose 12 in a row and things will change, but as of now, I think ppl can wring their hands and pretend like they know better, but there really isn’t a viable option but to give him the ball.
Carroll actually recently said his frame and build are irrelevant to this whole thing.
boo.
There is a huge risk, Lister. The Mets know it, too. They’re just willing to take it.
And people can wring their hands and say he wil be fine. We don’t know that either.
Have you see Jerry’s quotes on this?
I don’t understand how that can be possible, Dep. Maybe it’s not as crucial a factor as common sense would suggest, but, I mean, it’s irrelevant?
Dude probably eats like 5500 calories a day.
samardzija’s first big league victory could not have come at the expense of a better team.
as long as ppl acknowledge there is risk, i’m fine with whatever position they wanna take
its the folks that pretended like we were making this s**t up that drive dep up ze wall
There are other options, it’s just that they put this year’s post season at risk. I don’t think anyone has any illusions as to what it could mean for this season to rest Pelfrey. The question is whether or not the next month is more important than his next season or two.
I was surprised too.
worse part is i cant remember where i saw it. it wasnt on BP, someone wrote an article about Pelf and contacted him on his own and asked him Q’s, one of them said does it matter how big a boy he is, and Carroll said its not something he even considers.
Yeah I saw his comment. Jerry says stupid shit a lot of the time.
I really don’t think this is as big of a deal as it would be in a lot of other situations w/other pitchers.
And, yes, this is only my opinion.
the mets painted themselves into this corner.
they should have been proactive about it a LONG time ago when the whole pennant isnt on the line.
I think Pelfrey is a good bet to hold up but I’m still scared that we might ruin him.
Pitchers are flaky by their very nature. And great ones go away well before their time all too often.
if he can survive 2009, we’re golden. he’s gonna be a horse his whole career.
i will be nervous the entire season though!
ok i found it….Carroll said “its not something he currently considers” so my bad on misquoting him a little, but am i misinterpreting what he says here or what?
from new delcos:
I have to disagree. No. That’s NOT the question. If there were a guarantee that Pelfrey would tank, get injured, be ruined in future seasons because of his throwing 25-45 innings more than the “Verducci Effect” prescribes, then that would be a hugely different situation. To throw him every 5th day from here on out is not to say this year is more important than next. There is no guarantee of his future performance based on the next month plus.
Honestly, as things stand today, I myself can’t come up with a good argument for shutting him down completely at 182IP or whatever. It’s not ideal that he go to 200 or beyond, but it’s not his death sentence either. He has shown no signs of wearing down either over the season or w/in individual starts.
Yeah. Me, too. Of course, I am always nervous about injuries to the pitchers. Maybe it won’t feel different. ;-)
LOL. i still misquoted it! lol @ me
read it yourself and tell me how you interpret it please.
Guys, i gotta stop posting. i’m gonna miss the game!
he may not show signs till next season though
a lot of this shit trails for a while.
build/frame/height any of that ain’t listed
Honestly, it’s unclear what this means, but my best, simplest interpretation is that he means they haven’t factored “size” into the studies (yet). So, basically, it’s a gray area. I don’t think you can take it to mean that size has no effect on how a pitcher holds up.
but it also means then you cant say his build will help cuz no one knows.
dudes, i have to stop posting and finish this BS.
hope to see you for 1st pitch or damn close
lovez yaz
Of course there is no guarantee he will get injured, Lister. That’s not the point.
That’s like saying that someone shouldn’t worry about potentially getting lung cancer if they smoke because there is no guarantee that they get it.
Sure, some people will smoke their whole lives and not get lung cancer, but that doesn’t mean that anyone who smokes does not increase their chances of getting lung cancer tenfold.
So you either do 2 things: you don’t smoke and give yourself the best chance not to get lung cancer, or you smoke and roll the dice. And then fate or karma or a mean God take over, whatever.
I hear you, Lister. And I hope you’re right. In fact, you may well be.
It’s just a question of how you feel about risk/reward. I worry that they are taking a risk to the downside that exceeds the benefits for this season. That’s not to say that they’ve guaranteed an injury, just that they’ve materially increased the odds. I would have preferred to play it more carefully. (But no one is paying me to manage!)
But this could still prove to be worry about nothing. That’s the nature of risk management. Sometimes you pay dearly for protection that you will never need. Sometimes a hurricane hits.
Jinx! Sort of.
I’ve got to run. You obviously have points. I’m concerned too. But I think to some extent the concern has been overplayed, particularly here. That’s all. We’ll see I guess.
The only difference is that I channeled my inner Rick Peterson.
And I channeled my inner Warren Buffett.
See ya, Lister.
yay, i’m done! heading home! c u soon! PHILET THOSE PHISH!!!!!!
On the build argument:
here’s my main problem with it, if the argument is that a larger frame can handle increased torque (or whatever)…and maybe i dont understand the argument……but cant the larger arms on that larger frame cause MORE torque relative to a smaller type pitcher???
we will talk more soon. ciao!
Ok. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO METS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Real hot link dump tonight!
It’s pretty dead in here
I don’t know what is more frustrating the Mets or that I am the only one on this dump
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We’re going to win this game
Let’s go Cancel!!!!
If we lose, it’s because of the superstition that was broken cause you all didn’t post here
Come on Reyes! Get on!
LUIS!!!!
Beltran!!!!!
This is what being hardcore is about
We’re winning. lock it down Ayala
1 down
come on guys!!!!!!!!!