Eric Simon has far too much time on his hands. He sleeps upside-down, keeps people as pets, and can be found on the internets at Amazin' Avenue or bothered directly at eric@metsgeek.com.
Comment posted by john on August 23, 2008 at 4:29 pm (#814815)
So if reyes and stokes are still there does that mean evans isnt?
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 4:30 pm (#814816)
Louis Castillo is not going to be activated today. He volunteered to wait a few days. Argenis Reyes will start at second base.
Wow…that sounds a bit bizarre. Wonder what the real story is?
Comment posted by Doc believes! on August 23, 2008 at 4:30 pm (#814817)
Maybe Jerry saw him run and volunteered him.
Comment posted by DL on August 23, 2008 at 4:31 pm (#814818)
hahahamels
Comment posted by Doc believes! on August 23, 2008 at 4:31 pm (#814820)
Martin finds the area above the flower boxes in the left-center gap. 3-2 Phillies.
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 4:31 pm (#814819)
I don’t think so john. To me it means they didn’t activate castillo. Everyone’s still here.
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 4:32 pm (#814821)
Go Dodgers!!!!!!
Comment posted by john on August 23, 2008 at 4:32 pm (#814822)
Weirdness.
So he actually said “its ok ill stay in the minors a bit longer”?
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 4:33 pm (#814823)
i know, shea…very interesting. But if that’s really what happened, that’s really pretty cool of luis. I bet they want to wait on maine’s start.
I also wonder if they cant put easley on the DL to rest his quad for a few weeks…
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 4:33 pm (#814824)
I guarantee you someone volunteered him. He didn’t volunteer on his own.
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 4:34 pm (#814825)
So he actually said “its ok ill stay in the minors a bit longer”?
Someone “volunteered” him, john. bet on it.
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 4:34 pm (#814826)
aww, russell… :)
I also think Castillo doesn’t feel quite comfortable yet b/c he hasn’t been hitting well at all. He probably would like a little more time to get his swing back
Comment posted by john on August 23, 2008 at 4:36 pm (#814827)
Wonder if he wont mind staying there till I dunno September 1st? :)
Comment posted by Dep on August 23, 2008 at 4:41 pm (#814828)
lol. this is like a soap opera
as the luis castillo turns
Comment posted by Dep on August 23, 2008 at 4:43 pm (#814829)
Here’s the Castillo-less lineup:
Reyes, ss
A. Reyes, 2b
Wright, 3b
Delgado, 1b
Beltran, cf
Murphy, lf
Church, rf
Schneider, c
Maine, rhp
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 4:43 pm (#814830)
You can all laugh if you’d like, but I’d bet jerry fought it. he didn’t want to break up the non existent chemistry while his team was winning ;-)
mook, I actually like your idea of DLing Easley, but I doubt jerry would do it.
I also think Castillo doesn’t feel quite comfortable yet b/c he hasn’t been hitting well at all. He probably would like a little more time to get his swing back
I think you’re giving him way toooo much credit, But hey, you are definitely entitled to give him the benefit of the doubt. I don’t….lol! I firmly believe he was told he had to wait a few days.
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 4:44 pm (#814831)
I love any lineup with murphy and church in it, even though i’d prefer murph in the 2 spot
Comment posted by john on August 23, 2008 at 4:45 pm (#814832)
Thats what id like to see
Reyes, ss
Murphy, lf
Wright, 3b
Delgado, 1b
Beltran, cf
Church, rf
Castro, c
A. Reyes, 2b
Maine, rhp
Comment posted by Xorley on August 23, 2008 at 4:45 pm (#814833)
Luis is setting an example for this selfish team of what it means to be a team player. He also probably does not want to make the rest of the team look bad with his great play ability. Luis is a very selfless professional.
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 4:46 pm (#814834)
Wow…the bottom of the order actually looks like a baseball team these days….lol!
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 4:47 pm (#814835)
ha, maybe i’m giving castillo too much credit to contrast with fans giving him too much blame for everything else!
who knows what went down, but at the very least, you know jerry didn’t fight for luis!
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 4:48 pm (#814836)
I think part of the decision had nothing to do with castillo and everyhting to do with Maine. I’m sure they were reluctant to send Stokes down with Maine pitching tonight. And I bet jerry fought for Argenis. That’s my guess.
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 4:50 pm (#814837)
From the new delcos:
Luis Castillo will not be activated today. He spoke with Jerry Manuel just before we met with the manager. Manuel said Castillo said he needed a few extra days to get up to speed. He didn’t want to join a team that was playing so well if he didn’t think he was ready. Manuel respected the decision.
Ryan Church will start again tonight. But there was other news.
Manuel said he and Dan Werthen would monitor John Maine closely tonight. They will consider skipping him at some point if they have options (after Sept. 1) and they think he needs it.
Manuel also confirmed that he and Werthen had discussions about skipping Pelfrey’s start in Florida but hadn’t decided anything yet. … I’m telling you folks, this inning count will be an issue from here on out. Sabermetrics is here to stay.
Comment posted by Danny on August 23, 2008 at 4:50 pm (#814838)
I want to call him ARGHenis now. Why is he hitting second?
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 4:52 pm (#814839)
because he PLAYS second, danny! it’s like a requirement. Much like the 3B must bat 3rd, even if DW sits. We should be thankful Delgado doesn’t lead off
Comment posted by Dep on August 23, 2008 at 4:52 pm (#814840)
stupid sabermetrics! all protecting young pitchers arms n shit! boooooooo! evil!
Comment posted by john on August 23, 2008 at 4:53 pm (#814841)
I want to call him ARGHenis now. Why is he hitting second?
Because lil Jerry does not understand the importance of the 2 spot I suppose. That sub .300 OBP and SLG really helps in that spot :)
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 4:54 pm (#814842)
We should be thankful Delgado doesn’t lead off
lol!
Comment posted by Dep on August 23, 2008 at 4:55 pm (#814843)
i think he just likes writing reyes 2x in a row on the scorecard
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 4:55 pm (#814844)
it is just complete foolishness to skip pelf against a team that owns him - phuck sabermetrics! ;)
Comment posted by udamnwright Dunn should come cheap on August 23, 2008 at 4:55 pm (#814845)
Shea when did you meet show and where can i find the post about it?
Comment posted by Xorley on August 23, 2008 at 4:55 pm (#814846)
Sabermetrics should be fired if he keeps making an issue out of pitch counts.
Comment posted by Danny on August 23, 2008 at 4:56 pm (#814847)
I don’t want to harp on this. But ARGHenis is a really bad offensive player. He’s awful.
Comment posted by john on August 23, 2008 at 4:56 pm (#814848)
i think he just likes writing reyes 2x in a row on the scorecard
Then have him start at the 9th spot…..put reyes there then go to number 1 spot :)
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 4:57 pm (#814849)
It’s the perfect time to skip Pelfrey.
Comment posted by Dep on August 23, 2008 at 4:57 pm (#814850)
LOL john. that would solve it
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 4:59 pm (#814851)
exactly, shea. that was my point - even if they weren’t trying to limit his innings it would make sense. it really doesn’t have much to do with sabermetrics in this case
Comment posted by Danny on August 23, 2008 at 4:59 pm (#814852)
Well, I shouldn’t worry about Jerry’s lineups. It’s not like Jerry would ever do something crazy like bat Easley third against a righty.
Comment posted by john on August 23, 2008 at 4:59 pm (#814853)
A. Reyes wasnt even good offensively in the minors………he’s horrendous.
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:01 pm (#814854)
Udamn, I met Show, Heilman and Maine at a bar in Pittsburgh when we went for geek weekend. There really isn’t a post. Booey heard rumors of it and emailed me about it. I wrote him back with the whole story. That’s what he was referring to. I’ll send you the same email, but I don’t have your email address anymore. You’ve changed it from the one I had.
Comment posted by Xorley on August 23, 2008 at 5:02 pm (#814855)
the only one qualified to bat second is Luis. He puts the ball in play.
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 5:03 pm (#814856)
i’d love to see a breakdown of hitters in the 2 spot and Jose’s production - i.e., what kind of pitches he sees with Argenis behind him v. murph/evans or castillo or church
Comment posted by john on August 23, 2008 at 5:03 pm (#814857)
Batting Luis second is only a step up from Reyes batting second. It should be Church or Murphy…..prehaps Beltran
Comment posted by udamnwright Dunn should come cheap on August 23, 2008 at 5:04 pm (#814858)
If willie were still around i would make some joke aboutit being jose 9 and arg 1 since willie hates jose and loves light hitting 2nd baseman
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 5:07 pm (#814859)
ideally, i like murph/evans in the 2 spot over church. i like church behind one of the carloses. But i also like the idea of arg or castillo in the 9th spot, although it would waste the pitcher’s spot b/c it’s tough to bunt over either of the catchers
Comment posted by Xorley on August 23, 2008 at 5:08 pm (#814860)
Batting Luis second is only a step up from Reyes batting second. It should be Church or Murphy…..prehaps Beltran
LOL very funny
Comment posted by udamnwright Dunn should come cheap on August 23, 2008 at 5:09 pm (#814861)
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:09 pm (#814862)
I would prefer murphy/Evans there as well, but there’s something about met managers that just don’t see it our way!
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 5:12 pm (#814863)
i really think it is a name thing. the reyeses (reyii?) and the carloses have to be back to back
Comment posted by john on August 23, 2008 at 5:13 pm (#814864)
what next? Our lineup will be determined by coin flips?
Comment posted by BOB A. BOOEY on August 23, 2008 at 5:13 pm (#814865)
hey mook ,,,whats up ??
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 5:14 pm (#814866)
alphabetical order, john. or attractiveness, maybe. Santana for leadoff!
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 5:15 pm (#814868)
what’s going on, booey? I’ve been working all day, just procrastinating for a change…
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:15 pm (#814867)
I emailed you udamn.
Comment posted by BOB A. BOOEY on August 23, 2008 at 5:19 pm (#814869)
chillin ct ,,,, thats about it,,,,
you in the city ????
hmmmmm you guys hear about castillo right ?
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:19 pm (#814870)
Willie had Church in the 2 hole for awhile, but I can’t remember Manuel ever having anyone but Reyes, Castillo Anderson or Easley there…..even Endy. He did have Murphy a few times when he first got to the team. Then damn him….he started hitting and Manuel moved him down….lol! I”m not sure what all those guys have in common that makes manuel like them in the 2 hole. None of them can hit?
Comment posted by DL on August 23, 2008 at 5:20 pm (#814871)
fuck LA
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:20 pm (#814872)
Damn it! Kemp loses the ball in the sun.
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 5:21 pm (#814873)
yea booey - EAST SIDE! :)
Was at work for a while but there’s no a/c on the weekends so i’m home now - i can only last so long there
Comment posted by udamnwright Dunn should come cheap on August 23, 2008 at 5:21 pm (#814874)
That sounds so great Shea. I don’t know if could have had that convo with Aaron and kept a straight face but hey. The other email you had got disconnected when I moved and sadly this one didn’t get much for a while but is my primary one now.
Comment posted by BOB A. BOOEY on August 23, 2008 at 5:22 pm (#814875)
no no mook WESTSIDE !!!
my office does that also,,, its ridculous to have no ac,,,
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 5:22 pm (#814876)
None of them can hit?
There it is! oh god, endy is the absolute worst in the 2 spot. that one makes me cringe
Comment posted by DL on August 23, 2008 at 5:23 pm (#814877)
THE PHILS ARE BACK SOUND THE ALARM
Comment posted by udamnwright Dunn should come cheap on August 23, 2008 at 5:24 pm (#814878)
Evans seems to hit 2nd a decent amount or am I crazy
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:25 pm (#814879)
Since I had my little chat with Aaron and Show, udamn, they’ve done pretty well. I’m sure it was my pep talk….lol!
Comment posted by mookie03 on August 23, 2008 at 5:28 pm (#814880)
ha i know booey - its those energy incentives buildings have these days
it was all you, shea! maybe you should travel with the team, in case they need another pep talk?
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:29 pm (#814881)
Evans seems to hit 2nd a decent amount or am I crazy
No, you’re right udamn. I forgot about him. He does bat Evans 2nd when he plays. He sort of the odd guy in the “which one of these doesn’t belong” quiz when trying to figure out jerry’s reasoning. He’s the one who makes the most sense, imo.
Comment posted by Danny on August 23, 2008 at 5:32 pm (#814882)
Evans hits second because Manuel always plays Easley against lefties and so he like Easley lower in the lineup.
Comment posted by Danny on August 23, 2008 at 5:36 pm (#814883)
If ARGHenis plays, he will always hit second.
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:38 pm (#814884)
If ARGHenis plays, he will always hit second.
When Castillo plays, he will always hit second. Both are true.
Comment posted by Danny on August 23, 2008 at 5:39 pm (#814885)
But Castillo is significantly better than ARGHenis.
Comment posted by BOB A. BOOEY on August 23, 2008 at 5:48 pm (#814886)
argenius> castillo
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:52 pm (#814887)
Danny, I didn’t call Manuel and tell him not to activate Castillo. Nor did I set the lineup. It’s not my fault ;-)
Comment posted by BOB A. BOOEY on August 23, 2008 at 5:54 pm (#814888)
i think omar called lil jerry,,,
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:55 pm (#814889)
I do get the sense that someone other than Castillo made the decision.
Comment posted by BOB A. BOOEY on August 23, 2008 at 5:57 pm (#814890)
yep what ballplayer would ever think that way,,, ????
i mean they have huge egos,,,,,
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 5:57 pm (#814891)
Where is this vaunted Dodger pitching? Did they leave it back in LA. ugh! Guess the Mets will just have to do it on their own.
Comment posted by DL on August 23, 2008 at 5:57 pm (#814892)
the dodgers are terrible
Comment posted by Lister on August 23, 2008 at 5:59 pm (#814893)
Kershaw is going to be an animal by 2011 at the latest. A few Cy Youngs in his future.
Comment posted by BOB A. BOOEY on August 23, 2008 at 6:01 pm (#814894)
in that ballpark you figure la would score a few friggin runs huh ?????
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 6:03 pm (#814895)
They left enough guys on base.
Comment posted by sheadenizen on August 23, 2008 at 6:03 pm (#814896)
Kershaw is going to be an animal by 2011 at the latest. A few Cy Youngs in his future.
Couldn’t he have started today ;-(
Comment posted by BOB A. BOOEY on August 23, 2008 at 6:04 pm (#814897)
ha ha ha shea,,,
Comment posted by BOB A. BOOEY on August 23, 2008 at 6:05 pm (#814898)
ok ok im outta here for now more later,,,
see ya ,,,,
So if reyes and stokes are still there does that mean evans isnt?
Wow…that sounds a bit bizarre. Wonder what the real story is?
Maybe Jerry saw him run and volunteered him.
hahahamels
Martin finds the area above the flower boxes in the left-center gap. 3-2 Phillies.
I don’t think so john. To me it means they didn’t activate castillo. Everyone’s still here.
Go Dodgers!!!!!!
Weirdness.
So he actually said “its ok ill stay in the minors a bit longer”?
i know, shea…very interesting. But if that’s really what happened, that’s really pretty cool of luis. I bet they want to wait on maine’s start.
I also wonder if they cant put easley on the DL to rest his quad for a few weeks…
I guarantee you someone volunteered him. He didn’t volunteer on his own.
Someone “volunteered” him, john. bet on it.
aww, russell… :)
I also think Castillo doesn’t feel quite comfortable yet b/c he hasn’t been hitting well at all. He probably would like a little more time to get his swing back
Wonder if he wont mind staying there till I dunno September 1st? :)
lol. this is like a soap opera
as the luis castillo turns
You can all laugh if you’d like, but I’d bet jerry fought it. he didn’t want to break up the non existent chemistry while his team was winning ;-)
mook, I actually like your idea of DLing Easley, but I doubt jerry would do it.
I think you’re giving him way toooo much credit, But hey, you are definitely entitled to give him the benefit of the doubt. I don’t….lol! I firmly believe he was told he had to wait a few days.
I love any lineup with murphy and church in it, even though i’d prefer murph in the 2 spot
Thats what id like to see
Reyes, ss
Murphy, lf
Wright, 3b
Delgado, 1b
Beltran, cf
Church, rf
Castro, c
A. Reyes, 2b
Maine, rhp
Luis is setting an example for this selfish team of what it means to be a team player. He also probably does not want to make the rest of the team look bad with his great play ability. Luis is a very selfless professional.
Wow…the bottom of the order actually looks like a baseball team these days….lol!
ha, maybe i’m giving castillo too much credit to contrast with fans giving him too much blame for everything else!
who knows what went down, but at the very least, you know jerry didn’t fight for luis!
I think part of the decision had nothing to do with castillo and everyhting to do with Maine. I’m sure they were reluctant to send Stokes down with Maine pitching tonight. And I bet jerry fought for Argenis. That’s my guess.
From the new delcos:
I want to call him ARGHenis now. Why is he hitting second?
because he PLAYS second, danny! it’s like a requirement. Much like the 3B must bat 3rd, even if DW sits. We should be thankful Delgado doesn’t lead off
stupid sabermetrics! all protecting young pitchers arms n shit! boooooooo! evil!
Because lil Jerry does not understand the importance of the 2 spot I suppose. That sub .300 OBP and SLG really helps in that spot :)
lol!
i think he just likes writing reyes 2x in a row on the scorecard
it is just complete foolishness to skip pelf against a team that owns him - phuck sabermetrics! ;)
Shea when did you meet show and where can i find the post about it?
Sabermetrics should be fired if he keeps making an issue out of pitch counts.
I don’t want to harp on this. But ARGHenis is a really bad offensive player. He’s awful.
Then have him start at the 9th spot…..put reyes there then go to number 1 spot :)
It’s the perfect time to skip Pelfrey.
LOL john. that would solve it
exactly, shea. that was my point - even if they weren’t trying to limit his innings it would make sense. it really doesn’t have much to do with sabermetrics in this case
Well, I shouldn’t worry about Jerry’s lineups. It’s not like Jerry would ever do something crazy like bat Easley third against a righty.
A. Reyes wasnt even good offensively in the minors………he’s horrendous.
Udamn, I met Show, Heilman and Maine at a bar in Pittsburgh when we went for geek weekend. There really isn’t a post. Booey heard rumors of it and emailed me about it. I wrote him back with the whole story. That’s what he was referring to. I’ll send you the same email, but I don’t have your email address anymore. You’ve changed it from the one I had.
the only one qualified to bat second is Luis. He puts the ball in play.
i’d love to see a breakdown of hitters in the 2 spot and Jose’s production - i.e., what kind of pitches he sees with Argenis behind him v. murph/evans or castillo or church
Batting Luis second is only a step up from Reyes batting second. It should be Church or Murphy…..prehaps Beltran
If willie were still around i would make some joke aboutit being jose 9 and arg 1 since willie hates jose and loves light hitting 2nd baseman
ideally, i like murph/evans in the 2 spot over church. i like church behind one of the carloses. But i also like the idea of arg or castillo in the 9th spot, although it would waste the pitcher’s spot b/c it’s tough to bunt over either of the catchers
LOL very funny
shea go with dax13@hotmail.com
I would prefer murphy/Evans there as well, but there’s something about met managers that just don’t see it our way!
i really think it is a name thing. the reyeses (reyii?) and the carloses have to be back to back
what next? Our lineup will be determined by coin flips?
hey mook ,,,whats up ??
alphabetical order, john. or attractiveness, maybe. Santana for leadoff!
what’s going on, booey? I’ve been working all day, just procrastinating for a change…
I emailed you udamn.
chillin ct ,,,, thats about it,,,,
you in the city ????
hmmmmm you guys hear about castillo right ?
Willie had Church in the 2 hole for awhile, but I can’t remember Manuel ever having anyone but Reyes, Castillo Anderson or Easley there…..even Endy. He did have Murphy a few times when he first got to the team. Then damn him….he started hitting and Manuel moved him down….lol! I”m not sure what all those guys have in common that makes manuel like them in the 2 hole. None of them can hit?
fuck LA
Damn it! Kemp loses the ball in the sun.
yea booey - EAST SIDE! :)
Was at work for a while but there’s no a/c on the weekends so i’m home now - i can only last so long there
That sounds so great Shea. I don’t know if could have had that convo with Aaron and kept a straight face but hey. The other email you had got disconnected when I moved and sadly this one didn’t get much for a while but is my primary one now.
no no mook WESTSIDE !!!
my office does that also,,, its ridculous to have no ac,,,
There it is! oh god, endy is the absolute worst in the 2 spot. that one makes me cringe
THE PHILS ARE BACK SOUND THE ALARM
Evans seems to hit 2nd a decent amount or am I crazy
Since I had my little chat with Aaron and Show, udamn, they’ve done pretty well. I’m sure it was my pep talk….lol!
ha i know booey - its those energy incentives buildings have these days
it was all you, shea! maybe you should travel with the team, in case they need another pep talk?
No, you’re right udamn. I forgot about him. He does bat Evans 2nd when he plays. He sort of the odd guy in the “which one of these doesn’t belong” quiz when trying to figure out jerry’s reasoning. He’s the one who makes the most sense, imo.
Evans hits second because Manuel always plays Easley against lefties and so he like Easley lower in the lineup.
If ARGHenis plays, he will always hit second.
When Castillo plays, he will always hit second. Both are true.
But Castillo is significantly better than ARGHenis.
argenius> castillo
Danny, I didn’t call Manuel and tell him not to activate Castillo. Nor did I set the lineup. It’s not my fault ;-)
i think omar called lil jerry,,,
I do get the sense that someone other than Castillo made the decision.
yep what ballplayer would ever think that way,,, ????
i mean they have huge egos,,,,,
Where is this vaunted Dodger pitching? Did they leave it back in LA. ugh! Guess the Mets will just have to do it on their own.
the dodgers are terrible
Kershaw is going to be an animal by 2011 at the latest. A few Cy Youngs in his future.
in that ballpark you figure la would score a few friggin runs huh ?????
They left enough guys on base.
Couldn’t he have started today ;-(
ha ha ha shea,,,
ok ok im outta here for now more later,,,
see ya ,,,,