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August 22, 2008

Open Thread: Mets vs Astros, 8/22/2008

Scribbled by: Eric Simon @ 5:48 pm | Filed under: Game Chatters

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Comment posted by WilmerHasArrived on August 22, 2008 at 9:48 pm (#814535)
If we hadn’t traded Gomez, just think about it-
Endy/Beltrán/Gómez. That is not just todays best outfield; we’re getting into alltime territory.
Comment posted by Doc believes! on August 22, 2008 at 9:48 pm (#814536)
Santana is worth every penny. I should have bought his wine to go with this Reyes Cabernet, which is pretty good. On my 4th glass. About to pissy.
Comment posted by Simons on August 22, 2008 at 9:48 pm (#814537)
if his lack of “wins” isn’t causing him to be maybe the most under-rated starter in baseball this season.

The Met bullpen cost him the Cy Young Award this year, period.
Comment posted by Simons on August 22, 2008 at 9:49 pm (#814538)
Good night y’all
Comment posted by bcuster on August 22, 2008 at 9:50 pm (#814539)
we happen to be a pretty hot team right now.
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 9:50 pm (#814540)
The Met bullpen cost him the Cy Young Award this year, period.

:-(

Good night, Simons.
Comment posted by Kneel Before Zod! on August 22, 2008 at 9:50 pm (#814541)
The Met bullpen cost him the Cy Young Award this year, period.

if johan wins out and keeps this up, he has a VERY good shot at winning.
Comment posted by Kneel Before Zod! on August 22, 2008 at 9:51 pm (#814542)
haha johan BEGGED to go out for the 7th

love it
Comment posted by Confused on August 22, 2008 at 9:51 pm (#814543)
johan begged to stay in, per jerry
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 9:52 pm (#814544)
if johan wins out and keeps this up, he has a VERY good shot at winning.

Really? That would be cool, but I wouldn’t have thought it was possible.
Comment posted by littlefallsmets on August 22, 2008 at 9:52 pm (#814545)
Well, also the offense earlier in the season… but yeah. Santana is only out of the Cy Young discussion because of things outside of his control.

I’ll stick with having Santana over Gogo, though, as great as the kid is going to be.

I mean, I’m about as loathe toward trading away young talent as anyone but… Santana is an exception to basically every rule.
Comment posted by Confused on August 22, 2008 at 9:52 pm (#814546)
lost that by 1 1/100 of a second, but i may file a protest.
Comment posted by Kneel Before Zod! on August 22, 2008 at 9:53 pm (#814547)
Really? That would be cool, but I wouldn’t have thought it was possible.

if he has 16 wins and the lowest ERA in the NL on a division championship team…that’s a pretty good resume
Comment posted by bcuster on August 22, 2008 at 9:53 pm (#814548)
heilman’s story will be lost in the shuffle tonight. he was pounding low in the zone & got not one break on the ball/strike calls. nevertheless he was successful and for that we are thankful. amen
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 9:54 pm (#814549)
lost that by 1 1/100 of a second, but i may file a protest.

Do we have the photos?
Comment posted by Kneel Before Zod! on August 22, 2008 at 9:54 pm (#814550)
of course, it would help if webb stumbled a bit
Comment posted by littlefallsmets on August 22, 2008 at 9:54 pm (#814551)
People’ll see Webb with 23 wins, though, and crap their panties.

It’s sad but it’s true.
Comment posted by lucienlc on August 22, 2008 at 9:55 pm (#814552)
Brian Schneider .333 (10 for 30), 3 HR, 7 RBIs last 11 games.

Oh, and he pwns Oswalt. Something like 5-9.

Who’d a thunk.
Comment posted by Confused on August 22, 2008 at 9:56 pm (#814553)
jerry is in a good mood.
Comment posted by Kneel Before Zod! on August 22, 2008 at 9:57 pm (#814554)
People’ll see Webb with 23 wins, though, and crap their panties.

It’s sad but it’s true.

you speak the truth
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 9:57 pm (#814555)
if he has 16 wins and the lowest ERA in the NL on a division championship team…that’s a pretty good resume

Your mouth to God’s ears, Zoddy! I would be very happy if he was in the conversation. I know there are other guys having great seasons, too.

I think I might be a little buzzed.
Comment posted by lucienlc on August 22, 2008 at 9:57 pm (#814556)
Jerry has every reason to be in a good mood.

I’m sure the team is in a good mood too.
Comment posted by littlefallsmets on August 22, 2008 at 9:58 pm (#814557)
Heilman’s performance won’t be lost for those reasons, though.

It’ll be lost because we’ve all cried wolf fifteen times this season already, seeing him pitch one good inning and declaring him “back!” and then he tanks the next three games.

I mean, at this point, he just doesn’t get any credit for one good inning. He’s lost that privledge through his performance this season.
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 9:58 pm (#814558)
People’ll see Webb with 23 wins, though, and crap their panties.

I know. :-(
Comment posted by bcuster on August 22, 2008 at 10:01 pm (#814559)
team awards are more important than individual ones. when was the last time a world series winning team had mvp and cy young award winner? probably like 100 years ago
Comment posted by DL on August 22, 2008 at 10:01 pm (#814560)
let’s get serious, webb would deserve the CY even without the stupid obsession with wins
Comment posted by bcuster on August 22, 2008 at 10:03 pm (#814561)
as of right this nano-second, jeff samardzija deserves the cy young award
Comment posted by Kneel Before Zod! on August 22, 2008 at 10:04 pm (#814562)
let’s get serious, webb would deserve the CY even without the stupid obsession with wins

so would santana and lincecum
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 10:04 pm (#814563)
That’s fine, DL. And fair, too. (I assume. I didn’t check the stats.) But I would like for Johan to be in the conversation for the Cy Young. That would make me happy.
Comment posted by bcuster on August 22, 2008 at 10:05 pm (#814564)
on pure era, it’s the shark. he is swimming below 1.000
Comment posted by Confused on August 22, 2008 at 10:06 pm (#814565)
yanks bring in rivera with 1 on (on first) and 2 outs in the 8th to pitch to millar.

millar pooped up to the captain.

5-4 yanks
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 10:06 pm (#814566)
as of right this nano-second, jeff samardzija deserves the cy young award

haha! Custer, you are a wonder! I admire your focus.
Comment posted by Bob Loblaw on August 22, 2008 at 10:06 pm (#814567)
BREAKING NEWS:

CNN confirming that they don’t know sh!t.

+ +

Carry on.
Comment posted by DL on August 22, 2008 at 10:06 pm (#814568)
so would santana and lincecum

well, of course
Comment posted by bcuster on August 22, 2008 at 10:07 pm (#814569)
i hope the orioles win. i just hope
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 10:07 pm (#814570)
Is anyone else having trouble with MLB gameday. I can’t get it to load. I’m frantic.
Comment posted by DL on August 22, 2008 at 10:08 pm (#814571)
millar pooped up to the captain

:0
Comment posted by Bob Loblaw on August 22, 2008 at 10:08 pm (#814572)
Fast fact: The Mets are 1 1/2 games behind the Crew for the 2nd best record in the NL.
Comment posted by Confused on August 22, 2008 at 10:09 pm (#814573)
im not having any issues athena.
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 10:11 pm (#814574)
Thanks, Confused. What browser are you using? If I may ask?
Comment posted by Bob Loblaw on August 22, 2008 at 10:11 pm (#814575)
At least not in reference to gameday.

beepboopitybadump
Comment posted by Bob Loblaw on August 22, 2008 at 10:12 pm (#814576)
HOW DARE YOU ASK WHICH BROWSER I’M USING?!
Comment posted by bcuster on August 22, 2008 at 10:12 pm (#814577)
who’s the crew? the brew-crew?
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 10:15 pm (#814578)
HOW DARE YOU ASK WHICH BROWSER I’M USING?!

haha! I looked at that phrase and almost type, “yup. I’m a little drunk.” But I decided to leave it alone and hope no one noticed.
Comment posted by Confused on August 22, 2008 at 10:16 pm (#814579)
firefox 3.

i was “watching” the yanks and the fla.
Comment posted by Confused on August 22, 2008 at 10:16 pm (#814580)
the=then
Comment posted by Bob Loblaw on August 22, 2008 at 10:17 pm (#814581)
Just joshin’ you Athena - you’re clearly a very polite young lady.

+ +

Yes, I was referring to the Brewers, custer.
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 10:18 pm (#814582)
Thanks! I have Safari, but it seems to be struggling since last night.
Comment posted by Confused on August 22, 2008 at 10:18 pm (#814583)
Rosenthal’s Latest: Howard, Burrell, Burnett
By Tim Dierkes [August 22 at 4:29pm CST]

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports has a new column up today.

* With Ryan Howard looking at maybe a $14MM salary in his second year of arbitration, the Phillies could shop him this winter. Rosenthal lays out a scenario where they trade Howard and use some of those young players to acquire Matt Holliday. In this scenario Pat Burrell could be re-signed to play first base. I was surprised to see that a club official sees the chances of retaining Burrell as better than 50-50.
* If A.J. Burnett opts out, he will again favor teams such as the Nationals, Orioles, and Cardinals. Rosenthal thinks the Yankees and Mets are possible as well. And it’s still possible the Jays convince Burnett to stay by adding to his ‘09 and ‘10 salaries.
* Rosenthal frowns upon the Mariners’ double-failure to unload Jarrod Washburn’s contract.
Comment posted by Confused on August 22, 2008 at 10:19 pm (#814584)
no wonder, a mac.

;)

Heyman’s Latest: Bowden, Helton, Maddux, K-Rod
By Tim Dierkes [August 22 at 3:53pm CST]

Let’s take a look at the latest from SI.com’s Jon Heyman.

* Despite the headline “Nats GM in trouble,” Heyman says Jim Bowden has the support of his bosses. They do not blame him for Aaron Crow and are not concerned with his possible connection to the scout skimming scandal.
* Heyman suggests the Rockies could shop first baseman Todd Helton this winter if he demonstrates a healthy back in September. Here’s the thing - if Helton was a free agent and you had to give him a three-year deal, what would you pay? $5MM a year maybe? Are the Rockies going to eat $40MM? Helton might have to be swapped for another bad contract.
* Heyman sees Ryan Dempster getting four years and $48MM, and Oliver Perez snagging $60MM over five. Are they worth that?
* People close to Greg Maddux are saying he wants to pitch next year. Heyman also sees John Smoltz and Tom Glavine back in ‘09.
* “Some are expecting” the Reds to be big players in free agency this year. The Reds figure to be in the market for catching and outfield help. Manny Ramirez would be interesting.
* Heyman wonders if the Mets will be players for Francisco Rodriguez this winter.
Comment posted by bcuster on August 22, 2008 at 10:20 pm (#814585)
i just wish the orioles could not suck as much as they do. a nobody 3 run dinger for skunkpigs

and it gets worse
Comment posted by bcuster on August 22, 2008 at 10:23 pm (#814586)
i really shouldn’t pay attention to the skanks after a mets’ win…
Comment posted by Chaucer 2.0 in Westchester on August 22, 2008 at 10:24 pm (#814587)
Was Heilman sporting a soul patch? Made him look positively Greek God-like crossed with . . . uh . . . Maynard G. Krebs.

I, for one, was more pleased with the man’s K to end the 8th, of course. But a soul patch would be nice. Or was it just a trick of the light on that manly chin?
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 10:27 pm (#814588)
Was Heilman sporting a soul patch? Made him look positively Greek God-like crossed with . . . uh . . . Maynard G. Krebs.

Soul patches are an abomination.
Comment posted by bcuster on August 22, 2008 at 10:28 pm (#814589)
i don’t know chaucer. a soul patch is probably against his religion. i just like it when aaron pounds it low in then zone. when he does that he is near untouchable
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 10:35 pm (#814590)
Soul patches are an abomination.

Oops. I’m sorry. I hope no one here has a soul patch!
Comment posted by Jessica on August 22, 2008 at 10:39 pm (#814591)
Soul patches are an abomination.

Unless it’s Tony from 24. What?
Comment posted by littlefallsmets on August 22, 2008 at 10:48 pm (#814592)
Soul patches are only allowed if you’re so high that you talk to your dog and he answers back.

Because then people can chalk your decision up to your being that high.
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 10:52 pm (#814593)
Soul patches are only allowed if you’re so high that you talk to your dog and he answers back.

Because then people can chalk your decision up to your being that high.

heh!
Comment posted by WilmerHasArrived on August 22, 2008 at 11:01 pm (#814594)
Didnt Ryan Church have a soul patch? Or was that an all-out beard/goatee?
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 11:07 pm (#814595)
Soul patch, Wilmer. :-(
Comment posted by tim in ST.L on August 22, 2008 at 11:16 pm (#814596)
wow, Atlanta is not showing me much lately….we are up 2 touchdowns and a field goal. I cannot judge Wainwrights return from the DL, cause the bravos are a Triple A team….chipper’s pretty good though.
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 11:19 pm (#814597)
Hey, Tim. I saw the Electric Company reference from yesterday. I loved that show when I was a kid. That was Rita Moreno, you know.
Comment posted by tim in ST.L on August 22, 2008 at 11:23 pm (#814598)
I had a little thing for Rita Moreno growing up….I was feeling nostalgic and started watching a bunch of old Sesame Street clips on YouTube, when the opening song to the Elecric Co came on….those two shows were great….I really learned a lot from those shows.
Watch some of the old Cookie Monster skits, I dare you not to laugh your butt off. Are we in the same age bracket Athena? I know a gentleman doesn’t ask but for reference sake.
Comment posted by tim in ST.L on August 22, 2008 at 11:28 pm (#814599)
was that splat I heard the cubbies coming back to Earth? huh..maybe? hopefully. I have in-laws who are becoming insufferable in their bandwagoneering.
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 11:30 pm (#814600)
Yup, Tim. I’m a few years older than you. (And another year older next week! Which totally sucks.)

I loved the old Sesame Street. I especially love all the old songs. And Electric Company was just great. I learned to read watching that show. What a cast.

Morgan Freeman, Rita Moreno, Mel Brooks, Gene Wilder, Bill Cosby. I just looked that up and I’m shocked. But I remembered Moreno, Freeman and Cosby.
Comment posted by tim in ST.L on August 22, 2008 at 11:34 pm (#814601)
Totally remember Freeman and Moreno. I’ll be 38 in sept….I remember watching those shows like it was yesterday….I actually teared up a little when I saw this clip…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg71djeZfos

I’m kinda a puss…
Comment posted by littlefallsmets on August 22, 2008 at 11:35 pm (#814602)
Cubs are way too deep to be falling to Earth now.

A lot more like a Cubs team sitting on their laurels and a Nationals team playing out of intense frustration and… getting a day of good luck, just taking it out on a team already looking to October.
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 11:39 pm (#814603)
I like that one Tim. (You’re certainly not a puss!)

This is one of my favorites!
Comment posted by tim in ST.L on August 22, 2008 at 11:39 pm (#814604)
cubs suck LF’s. I hate them all, and they are only 4 up on Milwaukee….if history has taught you anything it’s that you need to be up by 7.5 by september..
Comment posted by tim in ST.L on August 22, 2008 at 11:41 pm (#814605)
“talkin bout the high cost of furniture and rugs and fire insurance for lady bugs” hilarious. Try getting that on fricken Hannah Montana.
Comment posted by tim in ST.L on August 22, 2008 at 11:43 pm (#814606)
time to feed the baby….I’m gonna take all the feedings tonight, and let Jen sleep. Sooo I’ll be up again at 3 or 4 if anyone wants to talk…….didn’t think so.
Comment posted by tim in ST.L on August 22, 2008 at 11:44 pm (#814607)
See you all later…LF’s, Athena and anybody else lurking about.
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 11:44 pm (#814608)
I hope the Cubs fall apart. I never had anything against them, but I think that it is absurd that they let Steve Bartman take the blame for their choke job. (I know. That was really the media. But I blame the Cubs.) I hope they never win the WS!

I’m going to bed, I guess. Good talking to you, Timmy! Give that baby girl a kiss from her Auntie Athena.
Comment posted by Athena on August 22, 2008 at 11:45 pm (#814609)
“talkin bout the high cost of furniture and rugs and fire insurance for lady bugs” hilarious. Try getting that on fricken Hannah Montana.

:-)

ime to feed the baby….I’m gonna take all the feedings tonight, and let Jen sleep. Sooo I’ll be up again at 3 or 4 if anyone wants to talk…….didn’t think so.

Good man!
Comment posted by jas on August 23, 2008 at 6:54 am (#814619)
Electric Company?…..aw, jeez, I miss all the good discussions!