The analysis of the Mets in the Baseball Prospectus 2008 doesn’t factor in the acquisition of Johan Santana, so it’s a little more understandable that they would write of 2008, “They won’t blow another late-season lead, because they won’t have another late-season lead.” However, even without Santana, who helps the Mets to a 96-win season and an easy division title according to BP projections, it’s hard to imagine the Mets not being in competition anyway.
BP’s analysis turns on the age of the Mets, which had the oldest pitching and the third-oldest hitting in the National League last year. They write that “having an old team doesn’t necessarily mean having a bad one,” but “older teams run an increased risk of injury or sudden erosion of skill, and that risk compounds with each additional elder added to the ranks.”
I’m nodding along in agreement—after all, this is the point of criticism I push over and over again—until I realize that such an epic, compound failure is unlikely at this point. It’s true that the Mets’ long-term strategy is inadequate, even seriously harmful, but in 2008 they are still good enough to win the division easily, even without Santana. BP is “deadly accurate” and remarkably poignant as always, but here it almost seems that they are trying to fit 2008 into last year’s thesis: “The Mets have finally gotten out from under the Braves only to find they’ve already peaked.”
After all, a team with such a poor strategy of player development and acquisition can’t stay on top for long, can they? Well, yes: they can. They can because (1) they have a powerful base of position players, two of whom are very young and very good, and (2) no one else in the division is smart enough to catch up. It will catch up with them eventually, but for now the Mets’ “vague, crepuscular time” is still fruitful.
BP is very critical of manager Willie Randolph and GM Omar Minaya, criticizing the former for his bullpen management and veteran favoritism, while pointing out that Minaya got nothing for Heath Bell, Royce Ring, Matt Lindstrom and Henry Owens before misguidedly trading Lastings Milledge and signing Luis Castillo. But they call both men out on Guillermo Mota, citing “the truly bizarre manner in which Randolph kept going back to Mota,” and writing, “both Randolph and Minaya refused to bail out the veteran reliever, even when he was bailing out on them.”
Despite writing of Luis Castillo in the team introduction that “his offensive value is on the wane due to his declining baserunning game, only moderate patience, and almost complete lack of power,” and that even his strong batting average will likely disappear by end of his contract, BP writes in his player profile that it’s worth paying for the consistency that Castillo provides. Speaking of second base, BP doesn’t “see much of a future” for Ruben Gotay. “If you can’t play on the left side of the infield, which Gotay can’t, then you have to be an everyday player, and Gotay can’t do that either, because another thing he can’t do is hit left-handers.” Kind of like Jose Valentin, right? BP writes of Stache: “The good news is that the injuries kept his $4.3 million option from vesting.” The funny thing is that I would almost prefer Valentin to Castillo or Gotay on two conditions: first, he has to be healthy, and, second, he has to give up switch-hitting, because he can’t hit right-handed. He’s probably still a better defender than Castillo, and if his bat has any pop left, a better hitter too.
BP writes of Ramon Castro, “In this catching-deprived world, there are less productive backstops with starting jobs, and the Mets will keep Castro in an understudy role to one of them: new acquisition Brian Schneider.” Of Schneider: “The Mets are chalking up his valuable intangibles, but they’ll reap what they sow: intangible value.” And speaking of catchers: “For all of the talk that the Rule 5 draft isn’t yielding the same sort of goodies that it used to, there are lovely counterexamples like [Jesus] Flores.” Ouch on all counts.
BP knows David Wright is awesome, writing, “He is just getting warmed up.” They wonder about Jose Reyes but write that “his skills are still coalescing; more important, they’re also still improving.” About Lastings, they write, “the only way to explain that deal is to say there was something else going on with Milledge that we don’t know about.” You see, they don’t read the New York papers at BP, so they aren’t familiar with how baseball writer hacks control our ball club.
On the pitching side, BP provides greater insights into the Mets roster. But before I get to those, I can’t help but summon this quote about Guillermo Mota:
Mota missed the first two months of the season while serving a suspension for performance-enhancing substances. When he returned he wasn’t very good, but he’s big and throws hard and usually throws strikes. The combination proved too big a temptation for Willie Randolph to resist, and he kept going back to Mota looking for results that ultimately proved to be chimerical. The impact was large—when talking about the team’s collapse, Randolph put the blame squarely on the players rather than himself, but his handling of Mota makes him just as culpable.
Such points should not be ignored. Nor is this Randolph’s only infraction; I would place his mind-numbingly exasperating reliance on Mota fourth or fifth on my list of “Reasons Why Willie Randolph is a Bad Manager and Should Be Fired,” but it’s still another thing that he, and no one else, messed up. His refusal to take any blame for anything, an old team hoping to stay the collapse of old age for one more year and a team philosophy and clubhouse atmosphere that encourages a sense of entitlement are all ingredients in a big recipe for disaster. So while I think BP is a little too eager to denounce the Mets, I can see where they’re coming from.
BP has good things to say about the Mets’ starting rotation. Johan Santana “…remains the only pitcher in baseball worth the gamble of a six-year contract.” Pedro Martinez: “Chances are he’ll be worth what he’s going to be paid…” John Maine is “a front-of-the-rotation pitcher” if he can do what he did over 2007’s first four months. BP wonders about Oliver Perez: “If you straighten him out, does he lose his at-times dominating stuff?”
The annual has some good points about the Mets’ relievers. They wonder whether the Mets realize that Joe Smith is a ROOGY, why they ever gave Scott Schoeneweis that contract, and if the team has a backup plan for Billy Wagner when his back spasms act up again. BP advises the Mets to listen to offers for the arbitration-eligible Aaron Heilman, and praises Pedro Feliciano for being effective against right-handers.
All in all, BP is down on the Mets, probably more because of the team’s overall strategy than its actual current major league talent. In some respects they mistake the Mets for the Giants, who have are older, worse team, even sparser in the minor leagues and even more badly managed than the Mets. The book won’t tell dedicated Mets fans much about the team they know, but it might inject some long-term pessimism into an enthusiastic fan base, even if their season prediction is badly timed and laughably wrong: “Unable or unwilling to undertake a needed rebuilding of their aging roster, the Mets will suffer more disappointment in 2008, only this year it will start on Opening Day.”
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Blastings! Thrilledge.
Wow– crepuscular, coalescing, and chimerical in one article! It must be some kind of a record.
Interesting analysis, though I wouldn´t be so pessimistic. I do think that losing Flores has been Omar´s most puzzling blunder in his time here as GM; I can understand the logic/thinking behind other moves, that that was just a f—up.
As to Milledge,
I´d agree, and I think it has less to do with the big, bad NY media than it does about him being disliked in the clubhouse (per Mex) and unwilling/unable to adjust to breaking pitches.
And as to Willie´s bullpen management– I completely agree. He´s a stubborn SOB, and someone needs to talk to him. Mota was a proven player in 2007– proven to fail repeatedly. Scho should be used in a more limited role. Feliciano can be used in an expanded role. Hopefully the return of Sanchez, the arrival of Wise, and the maturing of Smith will widen his options this year.
“Despite writing of Luis Castillo in the team introduction that “his offensive value is on the wane due to his declining baserunning game, only moderate patience, and almost complete lack of power,” and that even his strong batting average will likely disappear by end of his contract, BP writes in his player profile that it’s worth paying for the consistency that Castillo provides.”
BP is not written by just one writer. My guess is the person who wrote the team profile did not write Castillo’s individual profile.
Also, neither statement is necessarily contradictory. His value is on the wane, but depending on which team is doing the paying, “proven” averageness is worth paying for.
“In some respects they mistake the Mets for the Giants, who have are older, worse team, even sparser in the minor leagues and even more badly managed than the Mets.”
The Giants suck. But, their minor league system right now, is better than the Mets, due to all the trades. Note, I’m not criticising the Santana trade. FMart is the Mets high-ceiling hitting prospect. Angel Villalona is theirs. They have more and better 2nd tier prospects. Guys like Tim Alderson, Nick Noonan, Madison Bumgarner, Wendell Fairly, are all still far away, but all have fairly high upsides.
Exactly. And from reading the Red Sox message board there’s actually a few times where the PECOTA numbers (Nate Silver) disagree with the profile written on the player right below it (written by a different person)
Like PECOTA can say reyes will hit .250 but the profile below it might not suggest that.
Heck there’s times even Nate disagrees with his own system.
I got my copy of the BP annual yesterday, and I won’t have time to really take a good look at it until Sunday or Monday, but in a way I’m sort of glad that the book went to press before the Santana trade. We know what the NY media was saying about the team before and after the trade, and we knew that BP saw the Mets as teh awesomeness for ‘08 once they added Santana, but I was interested in seeing an in-depth look at their perspective on the team before an acquisition that few expected the Mets could make. It’s like a time capsule, and a good way of gauging how important a group of writers more intelligent than the Martys and Wallys of the world think getting Santana was for the Mets.
I both agree and disagree about Willie in his bullpen management, because for every game log where someone would bitch about bringing in Mota, you would end up with Show or Sosa coming in and blow the next game. The problem was that no matter who Willie put in they did not perform, Wagner, Heilman and Feliciano included. So while I agree that Mota seemed to be someone that Willie thought could “put it together” unreasonably, I don’t agree that he had many better options.
And one thing about Mota, he would tantalize me almost every time he would go out, if he had to throw an inning he would get 2 outs then unravel, if he had to go 2 he would get 5 and the same thing. Mota did have a lot of games where he started strong and looked like he might turn a corner, only to turn out there was a mac truck around the corner ready to run him over.
Still, I don’t see how putting Show or Sosa in there would have lead to different results, and they proved it every chance they got as well.
John, This was an exceptionally enjoyable piece for me to read - not only was it clearly written and organized, but the views so closely reflect many of my own regarding Willie, Omar and the Geriatric Nation.