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Still Alive
by: Alex Nelson on Oct 19, 2006 1:24 AM | Filed under: Articles

It’s funny. Looking at just the matchups before last night’s game, it was a mismatch. Chris Carpenter won the NL Cy Young last year and has a good shot at doing it again this year, and John Maine almost didn’t make the playoff rotation before injuries descended on the Mets’ pitching staff.

In Game 2, when these two pitchers met the first time, neither pitched well: Carpenter gave up five runs in five innings, and Maine went just four, allowing four total runs. Still, if I had to put money down on one of those guys making a comeback, my money would have been on Carp. But John Maine got the win in Game 6, not Chris Carpenter. And I’m not sure he really even pitched better.

Oh, maybe Maine pitched better. He struck out an extra batter in two-thirds less of an inning and allowed five fewer hits and one fewer homerun. But he also walked four more batters, hit another, and threw far fewer strikes.

In all honesty, Maine didn’t really seem to pitch that much better than he had during Game 2. The difference was that the umpiring seemed a little more consistent (though that had little effect on the actual number of strikes Maine threw), and Maine was able to get out of his big jam in the first. On the other hand, Carpenter allowed a run in his only jam of the night, coming in the fourth inning.

I don’t say this to pick on Maine at all. He did what he needed to do, which was to pitch competently and let the game hinge on other factors, like the Cardinal bats’ utter failure to get anything going until the ninth inning. I just find it fascinating that the playoffs are as unpredictable as they are. I’m apparently not the only one who thinks so; in the New York Times, Will Leitch, Cardinal fan and editor of Deadspin, also underlined this same unpredictability. The playoffs are no more chaotic than any regular season game, but we all tend to only notice it when it’s all on the line.

Last week, I published a column here entitled, “Four Reasons Why the Cardinals Could Shock.” In that article, I was very careful to stick to conditional verbs, like “could,” for two reasons. First, I didn’t want to be laughed at when the Mets swept, and second, I just didn’t know what we’d actually see, just what we might. At times, three out of my four possibilities have been dead on: the Cardinal offense looked very much alive in a couple of games, Jeff Suppan pitched fantastically, and the Cardinal bullpen was lights out here and there. The one prediction that hasn’t worked out was the one I felt most confident about.

Tomorrow’s match-up of Jeff Suppan versus Mystery Met once again favors the Cardinals. Suppan owned the Mets in Game 3, both on the mound and in the batter’s box. But I’m not worried, because I know better now. One game is impossible to predict. Trends are just trends, streaks can be broken, and the mighty humbled. It’s going to come down to a coin toss.

And because of that, in my own twisted mind, it’s going to come down to everything. The umpiring. The winds at Shea. What I eat for breakfast. It may come down to the number of comments we get during the game. It could come down to Eric Simon’s Endy shirt. Or my lucky Mets cap that I started wearing on September 28th in an effort to change the team’s mojo and have worn ever since, despite ripping it off my head after Game 2 and stomping all over it.

It could come down to karma. Last week, I was sure it would, and I don’t even believe in the stuff. Heck, I don’t even really know what it is or how it works. There’s nothing like an uncontrollable situation to turn a rational being into a superstitious mess.

And here we are at Game 7. Another coin flip. Or maybe one last series of coin flips. I’m hoping for lots of “heads.”


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  1. Comment posted by Mak on October 19, 2006 at 12:16 pm (#141237)

    S*CK IT

  2. Comment posted by sheadenizen on October 19, 2006 at 12:18 pm (#141238)

    If you’re not down with that we Get 2 Words for ya.

    Would those be….”stay away” udamn….lol?

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  4. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 12:20 pm (#141240)

    LOL close shea.

    ::forms X with arms::

  5. Comment posted by BrianCusterFanClub on October 19, 2006 at 12:21 pm (#141241)

    udamnwright…that was brilliant. I agree. but i don’t want to do the chant around what they have to offer us on the loud speakers. They should get a better chant that closer resembles the fans Jose chant.

    another thing, the loud speaker never sounded like Jo-se…they got a cut of that sound to come as close as possible TO OUR JOSE CHANT. But now people from ESPN and FOX are looking at the chants and going by what the loud speakers are saying and not us. This chant has been going on for years at Shea and it was Shea who catered to us, not vice versa.

    GET IT RIGHT STARKS!
    and Cliff don’t know what he is talking about because he is always humming Big Pimpin to himself anyways!

  6. Comment posted by Mak on October 19, 2006 at 12:22 pm (#141242)

    Omar is gonna be on Screamin A in a little bit.

    After that he’s going to have my boy Curtis Martin. I hate Screamin A, but he has a nice line up today.

  7. Comment posted by Metsfan in RedSox country on October 19, 2006 at 12:22 pm (#141243)

    I won’t take personal offense at the prior bandwagon comment — after 21 years, through the good times but also the lean, Vince Coleman-Bobby Bonilla-type seasons, I don’t know many who’d call that “jumping on the bandwagon”. But I will suggest that there are many fans out there who are “long time listeners, first time callers” (to message boards like this) and there is plenty of room under the tent for all of us.

    Personally, I find it exhilarating to think of all the Mets fans — daily posters or not — across the country and beyond who are pulling for the team in its biggest game of the year.

    Let’s Go Mets!.ie

  8. Comment posted by BrianCusterFanClub on October 19, 2006 at 12:25 pm (#141244)

    The Mets better be wearing those same uni’s they wore last night. I love the classic met uniform. Please no black, no black bill on the hat either. Same thing baby.

  9. Comment posted by a on October 19, 2006 at 12:26 pm (#141245)

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=FLXGY2CNwTQ

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  11. Comment posted by Bryan in Albany on October 19, 2006 at 12:26 pm (#141246)

    Who the fluck cares what Jason Stark says the “correct” chant is?

    Jason Stark! JASON STARK! We don’ need no stinkin’ Stark.

    It isn’t Stark’s take I think people are surprised by, but the fact that Cliff backed him up. Where did he hear that it was Jose-O-Lay? Maybe that’s what Reyes wants. Maybe it’s something really cool that I don’t even know about. You know, and uh, and I started feeling… what? what I thought we were in the trust tree in the nest, were we not?

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  13. Comment posted by chris in ga on October 19, 2006 at 12:30 pm (#141247)

    I read very little in the thread last night. if I had time, i would go back but i dont

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  15. Comment posted by Wdwrkr35 on October 19, 2006 at 12:34 pm (#141248)

    Anna, when the mets are down the doubters come out in force and people get tired of hearing it. Some of the regular posters just leave rather then listen to that stuff. When the Mets are winning theres like tripe the posts from everyone. We just had a thread beat 2000 posts for the first time.

  16. Comment posted by bcuster on October 19, 2006 at 12:36 pm (#141249)

    i like the black jersey; when a team wears black and thats not their normal uniform color; to me it shows they mean business: like flying a pirate flag or “no quarter asked, none given” flag; i think it would be cool if they wore all black tonight, those pinstripes were a skankee rip-off from the beginning, anyway…

  17. Comment posted by BrianCusterFanClub on October 19, 2006 at 12:37 pm (#141250)

    Cliff should stick to dissecting J-Z songs

    We doin.. big pimpin, we spendin cheese
    Check em out now
    Big pimpin, on B.L.A.D.’s
    We doin.. big pimpin up in N.Y.C.
    It’s just that Jigga Man, Pimp C, and B-U-N B

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  19. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 12:41 pm (#141251)

    They better have on the same uni’s as last nite, you dont change your uni’s in gm 7 after winning game 6, come on now.

    if they wear the black, that might worry me.

  20. Comment posted by sheadenizen on October 19, 2006 at 12:48 pm (#141252)

    I brought it up last night and i will again….wear those pinstripes with the blue caps! Just like last night…..no contest!

  21. Comment posted by Mike on October 19, 2006 at 12:49 pm (#141253)

    I’d like to see them wearing the pinstripes too.

    Except Wagner. He can wear black.

    {I’m just joking around, trying to be goofy! Please, no throwing of beer or solid objects!} ;-)

  22. Comment posted by udamnwright on October 19, 2006 at 12:49 pm (#141254)

    They better have on the same uni’s as last nite, you dont change your uni’s in gm 7 after winning game 6, come on now.

    if they wear the black, that might worry me.

    Exactly you ride the uni’s. If I remeber correctly Charlie Samuels believes in that stuff and will stick with the winning uni.

  23. Comment posted by Mike on October 19, 2006 at 12:52 pm (#141255)

    I hear that Jose Valentin will actually the very jock strap that Keith wore for game 7 of the ‘86 series.

    He found it in the closet of some model who was hot back then.

    And one of my moles has replaced Wainwright’s pre-game toothbrush with the same one that Shiraldi used before both games 6 & 7 that year.

    All the karma, mojo, feng shui. voodoo, hoodoo, and sboobie doo are in place.

  24. Comment posted by udamnwright on October 19, 2006 at 12:53 pm (#141256)

    Metsfan in RedSox Country my post 87 on the previous page was not dirrected at you in anyway. It was actually directed at a poll on ESPN where a ton of people had picked the Cards to win yesterday and now most of the country today was saying Mets win.

  25. Comment posted by BrianCusterFanClub on October 19, 2006 at 12:54 pm (#141257)

    I want Glen Close to do the National Anthem

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  27. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 12:54 pm (#141258)

    LOL mike…good stuff my man funny

  28. Comment posted by BrianCusterFanClub on October 19, 2006 at 12:56 pm (#141259)

    BTW…this has already been the most unproductful day of work in my entire life….and I am leaving work at 3pm to tailgate at Shea

    For good luck I watched my 1986 Year to Remember VHS…Does anyone know if they have digitally rematered it onto DVD. =)

    LETS GO METS!

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  30. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 12:56 pm (#141260)

    I read very little in the thread last night. if I had time, i would go back but i dont

    lol chris, oh well, too bad you dont have time today.

    How bout that Paulie hit last nite? pretty clutch huh? LOL!!!!

    and the play where he saved Maine’s ass on that wild pitch, clutch clutch clutch.

  31. Comment posted by sheadenizen on October 19, 2006 at 12:56 pm (#141261)

    If I remeber correctly Charlie Samuels believes in that stuff and will stick with the winning uni.

    You’re absolutely right…actually, udamnwright! I heard last night that Samuels picked those unis and I hope he will again.

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  33. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 12:59 pm (#141263)

    hell yea BCfanclub, enjoy the game bro and get that CROWD LOUD!!!!!

  34. Comment posted by BrianCusterFanClub on October 19, 2006 at 12:59 pm (#141264)

    its a no brainer. if for some reason the mets wear black tonight I will make up a consiracy theory that involves John Franco, Al Leiter, and a radio.

  35. Comment posted by Hubie on October 19, 2006 at 1:00 pm (#141265)

    Anna, when the mets are down the doubters come out in force and people get tired of hearing it. Some of the regular posters just leave rather then listen to that stuff. When the Mets are winning theres like tripe the posts from everyone. We just had a thread beat 2000 posts for the first time.

    I don’t understand why its so bad for people to have some doubt. We are all rooting for a baseball team and have no control over the situation, so of course you will have some doubt.

    Tonight’s game is definitely a toss-up. We all know it. We have to hope a pitcher with a 6.5 ERA this year can get through the first 2/3 innings on 3 days rest. If you doubt have the slightest bit of doubt, than you are not human. On the flip side, all of us have seen what a resilient team we have and we all have confidence too this team call pull it off tonight. As I said yesterday, the key to tonight’s game is the top of the first inning. If Perez can get through it unscathed, the crowd will go nuts and I have a strong feeling we will hack Suppan early tonight. He had his career game, now it back to the slob he has been most of his career.

  36. Comment posted by bcuster on October 19, 2006 at 1:00 pm (#141266)

    i always thought the starting pitcher got to pick the uniform…. i know ollie would go with the all blacks…. he was decked out in black leather last night

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  38. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 1:00 pm (#141267)

    seriously…I cant even believe some ppl want them to wear the black, yea custer I’m looking at you ;) LOL

  39. Comment posted by BrianCusterFanClub on October 19, 2006 at 1:03 pm (#141269)

    Black reminds me of “Who let the dogs out” and John Franco getting a horsie ride on Piazza’s back

    Please no black!

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  41. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 1:05 pm (#141270)

    Yea Hubie I hear what ur saying, but in the 1st inning, I dont need posters jumping off the ship and saying we’re gonna lose cuz 2 guys reached base or I’m gonna go slit my wrists, which someone said.

    If I was in Shea and someone in the stands in my section said we’re gonna lose the game in the 1st inning, I would get on them just as much.

    Everyone feels doubt, there’s no need to express it all the time.

  42. Comment posted by udamnwright on October 19, 2006 at 1:05 pm (#141271)

    Shea, Am I correct in my memory that Charlie Samuels also has a little superstition that will make him stick with the pinstripes.

    Why would change the uni after last nights win. I turned the tv on and saw the pinstripes and it made me happy it made me feel like the Mets were home and Shea and ready to deliver a win.

  43. Comment posted by bcuster on October 19, 2006 at 1:06 pm (#141273)

    what’s so strange about wanting them to wear all black tonight, you can’t deny it is a sharp looking, cool, unique uniform… and i think it sends the right message: WE MEAN BUSINESS

    i saw on animal planet that male lions with black manes lead the pride more often than the tawny maned lions fyi…

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  45. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 1:06 pm (#141274)

    Yup, the pinstripes gave me confidence too. We look so good in them, I pray we have them on again tonight. Lets go Charlie!!!!

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  47. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 1:07 pm (#141275)

    I dont get the whole wearing black means business.

    Does that mean those 3 goth kids that smoked pot behind my high school just meant business? LOL

  48. Comment posted by Keith Hernandez’s Porn Stash on October 19, 2006 at 1:10 pm (#141277)

    Neyer on Espn.com has an Insider article on Perez, apparently calling him the “worst game 7 starter ever.” F* u Neyer. Can somebody who is an “insider” please cut and post this article on the thread?

  49. Comment posted by udamnwright on October 19, 2006 at 1:10 pm (#141278)

    So on another note. During last nights post game interviews Heils had a t-shirt on that was partially covered by a jacket. So what I could see of the shirt said “m not dead y” my guess is it said “I’m not dead yet”. I like that

  50. Comment posted by bcuster on October 19, 2006 at 1:10 pm (#141279)

    oh for heaven’s sake; wear the sissified pinstripes then ,if that will keep the geeks happy; we’ll wear the black when the tigers come to town…

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  52. Comment posted by Ellis Dee on October 19, 2006 at 1:12 pm (#141280)

    question for everyone since i am new here: is there really a belief (even half-hearted) that the more comments in the gametime posts, the better the team does? i’m curious just because a friend of mine has a theory about collective energy like that, etc.

    I read about a study where a large group of people were meditating on peace and the crime rate dropped by something like 80 or 90% in that area. Consciousness is supposedly sent out in waves of energy that can be picked up at the other end like radio waves except it travels at the speed of light. So believe what you want. It can’t hurt to send the boys some love especially just before key situations in the game. Love being the most potent form of consciousness. Send some vibes to the umps to make the calls in favor of the REAL good guys too. It can’t hurt to try.

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  54. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 1:12 pm (#141281)

    Keith - I’ll post that article for ya.

    GAME THREAD IS OPEN!!!! LETS DO THIS

    7 HOURS and 6 minutes!!!!!

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  56. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 1:14 pm (#141282)

    here ya go Keith:

    Oliver Perez, huh?

    One can hardly blame Willie Randolph. If he didn’t pitch Oliver Perez, he’d have to pitch Darren Oliver, who hasn’t started a game in more than two years. If he didn’t pitch Darren Oliver, he’d have to pitch Steve Trachsel, who’s got an owie on his leg, and his teammates think he bailed out last time. If he didn’t pitch Steve Trachsel, he’d have to pitch Aaron Heilman, who’s thrown only a dozen pitches since last Friday and clearly isn’t ready to do something he did for many years before the Mets decided he couldn’t do it.

    PerezWhen we learn that Oliver Perez is going to start a game that’s going to determine the National League championship, we can’t help but notice that this is the same Oliver Perez who went 3-13 this season and racked up a 6.55 ERA. It’s true that Perez won Game 4 of the NLCS. It’s also true that Perez’s ERA in Game 4 was even higher than his ERA during the rest of 2006. If Oliver Perez has rediscovered the Oliver Perez we thought might become a star, he’s doing a bang-up job of keeping it to himself.
    We also can’t help but wonder whether Perez might be the unlikeliest — OK, let’s be honest here: the worst — Game 7 starter ever. So how does Perez measure up? I know you’re busy and stuff, so I won’t make you wait for an answer until the end of today’s column. I’ll make you wait a bit longer, though. First, you’re going to find out how much work went into this little study, because the research took a few hours and I want extra credit this time around.

    Of course, there are few things less interesting than somebody else’s data entry, so I’ll just tell you that I identified every pitcher who started an all-or-nothing game in a best-of-seven (or best-of-nine) postseason series, and then I entered his wins and his losses and his inning pitched and his earned runs allowed for that season, and then I entered the same stats for his career. Then I did some sorting, which quickly led to an inescapable conclusion.

    Perez is almost certainly the worst pitcher who’s ever started a Game 7. There are 94 pitchers in the study. Perez won three games this season, which places him 94th on the list. His winning percentage this season was .188, which is 94th on the list. His career winning percentage is .411, which is 94th on the list. His career ERA is 4.67, which is 93rd on the list.

    Umm, did I mention there are 94 pitchers in the study? Perez’s best showing is in career wins; he’s got 30, which puts him in the 79th slot, ahead of a bunch of rookies (more on them later, if you’re still hanging around). Perez is one of only two Game 7 starters who won fewer than eight games during the season. The other was Brooklyn’s Hal Gregg, who started Game 7 in the ‘47 World Series after going 4-5 with a 5.88 ERA during the season. (In fact, one might reasonably argue that Gregg, who won only three games after 1947, and whose only big season came during the war, actually belongs slightly ahead of Perez in our rankings. But we’ll leave him at No. 2 because it makes for a “better,” more topical column.)

    Since I did all that research and you’re still hanging around, here are a few somewhat random notes about Game 7 starters:

    • The “average” Game 7 pitcher went 16-8 during the regular season, with a 3.31 ERA; in other words, with a small adjustment for context he was Chris Carpenter, circa 2006.

    • By my count, nine rookies started a Game 7; they went just 2-3 but posted a solid 3.43 ERA.

    • In 1952, Dodgers rookie Joe Black won 15 games during the season despite starting only twice, then started Games 1, 4 and 7 in the World Series. He pitched decently or better in all three games, but won just the first of them.

    • Here’s your bit of weird trivia for the day: Don Larsen started two Game 7s for the Yankees, which was two more than Whitey Ford started.

    • Most common number of regular-season wins for a Game 7 starter? Twenty, and 15. Ten pitchers — well, nine, because Bret Saberhagen gets counted twice in 1985, because he started two Game 7s — won 20 on the nose, and 10 won 15.

    • Roger Clemens leads the way with four Game 7 starts; tied for second place, with three apiece, are notable big-game pitchers Bob Gibson and John Smoltz.

    And finally, in chronological order, a few names that might surprise you: rookie Hugh Bedient (1912), Curly Ogden (who pitched to only two batters, in a bit of 1924-style gamesmanship), Elden Auker (1934), Johnny Kucks (who pitched a shutout in 1956), rookie Joe Magrane (1987), Atlee Hammaker (1987) and Mark Redman (only three years ago!).

    SuppanIf you’re a Mets fan, I hope you’re still reading, because I do have one shiny ray of hope. Remember Perez’s 4.67 career ERA, 93rd on the list? Well, Nos. 92 and 94 happen to be occupied by the same pitcher … and that same pitcher happens to be starting for the St. Louis Cardinals tonight. That’s right, folks: No. 92 is Jeff Suppan’s 4.60 career ERA (through 2006), and No. 94 is Suppan’s 4.80 career ERA (through 2004).
    That said, here’s a shiny ray for Cardinals fans: When Suppan started Game 7 of the 2004 NLCS, he pitched six strong innings and beat the Astros 4-2. He must have forgotten he wasn’t supposed to pitch well. Maybe he will again. And maybe Perez will, too. My prediction: a double no-hitter.

    Senior writer Rob Neyer writes for Insider three times most weeks during the season. You can reach him via rob.neyer@dig.com, and his new book, “Rob Neyer’s Big Book of Baseball Blunders,” is available everywhere.

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  58. Comment posted by dptydwg420 on October 19, 2006 at 1:15 pm (#141284)

    LOL custer I like the way you think buddy :)

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  60. Comment posted by Ellis Dee on October 19, 2006 at 1:18 pm (#141285)

    I’ve wondered if the black uni’s allow the other team to pick up the ball easier from our pitchers. You know, more contrast between the white ball and the black jersey.

  61. Comment posted by BrianCusterFanClub on October 19, 2006 at 1:22 pm (#141291)

    I have been a stat man for the whole series but with this met team and a Game 7 it is all about heart…i have a really good feeling about tonight. Remember how confident Mex, Darling, Straw said they were the night of the Game 7 rain out in 86, they knew they were going to win. I have the same feeling about tonight. Like Steve Summers said in Simply Amazin regarding Game 6 once Mitchell tied the game…”It didn’t matter if the red sox were bringing in Cy Young, the game was over”

    I have heard that Willie has given his usual travel iterinery to each player today…..for Detroit.

  62. Comment posted by Hubie on October 19, 2006 at 1:24 pm (#141292)

    Yea Hubie I hear what ur saying, but in the 1st inning, I dont need posters jumping off the ship and saying we’re gonna lose cuz 2 guys reached base or I’m gonna go slit my wrists, which someone said.

    If I was in Shea and someone in the stands in my section said we’re gonna lose the game in the 1st inning, I would get on them just as much.

    Everyone feels doubt, there’s no need to express it all the time.

    I totally agree. There is no need to be negative if for some reason we got down early tonight. We will not be shut down again by Suppan. No f’in chance!

  63. Comment posted by Jorge in Montana on October 19, 2006 at 1:30 pm (#141296)

    I read about a study where a large group of people were meditating on peace and the crime rate dropped by something like 80 or 90% in that area. Consciousness is supposedly sent out in waves of energy that can be picked up at the other end like radio waves except it travels at the speed of light. So believe what you want. It can’t hurt to send the boys some love especially just before key situations in the game. Love being the most potent form of consciousness. Send some vibes to the umps to make the calls in favor of the REAL good guys too. It can’t hurt to try.

    Perhaps those meditating were the ones commiting the crime and the meditating kept them too busy to commit the crimes? j/k
    But yeah, nothing but positive energy tonight, say a prayer to whatever Mets fans you know that have shuffled off this mortal coil, fulfill every superstition you have it can’t hurt. The Mets will find a way to win tonight…

  64. Comment posted by Keith Hernandez’s Porn Stash on October 19, 2006 at 1:34 pm (#141299)

    Thanks dptydwg420,

    that bit about Suppan is a silver lining of sorts. He’s damn near the bottom of the game 7 list in starters as well…

    game thread already!? i like it. early and often, like we will score tonight. switching over..

  65. Comment posted by BrianCusterFanClub on October 19, 2006 at 1:36 pm (#141300)

    I can tell you this. There will be a mortal human being calling balls and strikes behind the plate tonight that might be influenced by the 56,000 crazed NY’ers around him.

    IF I DONT LOSE MY VOICE TONIGHT, I NEVER WILL

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  67. Comment posted by chris in ga on October 19, 2006 at 1:49 pm (#141304)

    lol chris, oh well, too bad you dont have time today.

    How bout that Paulie hit last nite? pretty clutch huh? LOL!!!!

    and the play where he saved Maine’s ass on that wild pitch, clutch clutch clutch.

    you really dont want to do this, do you? You mentioned the good but not the bad. Who the hell in their right mind calls for sliders against Scott Rolen, who cant get around on a fastball?

    Im out for awhile. I am sick as a dog today

  68. Comment posted by Brian on October 19, 2006 at 2:06 pm (#141310)

    I have heard that Willie has given his usual travel iterinery to each player today…..for Detroit.

    Willie said that is what he was going to talk to the team about yesterday during his interview with Mike&theDog

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  70. Comment posted by 86Forever on October 19, 2006 at 2:14 pm (#141314)

    OK, you all saw my omens yesterday — and how they turned out. Here comes today’s omen:

    I put my iPod shuffle on just a few moments ago. 2,500 songs. Which is the first one it selected at random?? “Oliver’s Army,” by Elvis Costello.

    Coincidence? I think not.

    Which Oliver? Who cares.

    LET’S GO METS!!!!!!!!

  71. Comment posted by Eddie Glynn on October 19, 2006 at 2:22 pm (#141318)

    Nice omen 86. Lovin it.
    LETS GO METS!

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  73. Comment posted by Thurgood Jenkins on October 19, 2006 at 2:22 pm (#141320)

    Naw Chris i dont wanna discuss it I guess. Didnt mean to upset ya man

  74. Comment posted by metswin2006 on October 19, 2006 at 6:29 pm (#141623)

    Im keeping the 1986 game 6 ticket stubs, the mookie wilson auto ball, and the bill buckner card on top of the tv again. Game 7 now Baby!!!! Lets Go Mets!!!!!!!!!

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