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December 15, 2005
After various reports yesterday that the Mets would be willing to give Julian Tavarez a fourth year, the Mets today deny…
I don’t see guys like Dotel, Alfonseca and Seanez getting three years, but it probably is likely for Tavarez, who has been a very solid reliever since he moved to the bullpen in 2002 after a few terrible years as a starting pitcher. He is completely out of his mind, and will have the occasional blowup, but more in a fun sense than in the Milton Bradley everybody ends up hating you way. I’m not particularly thrilled giving a set-up man even three years unless they are truly dominant (most of those guys end up as closers though), but considering the way the market has been trending, it seems quite unavoidable when looking to sign Tavarez. That being said, Tavarez would be a solid addition to go with Aaron Heilman in the 7th and 8th innings and I would approve of this signing, as long as it is for 3 years or less (4 years, on the other hand, is nuts). A couple of other interesting ramblings…
I’ve always been a big fan of Batista’s and I think he would make a nice fit, so I would definitely like the Mets to look into him, assuming the price is not that high. As for the Nelson idea, you can probably expect the Mets to bring in a lot of pitchers to Spring Training on minor league contracts, along with Rule 5 pick Mitch Wylie, to battle out for a spot in the back of the bullpen. If you would like to rip apart Jeremy's writing, you can reach him here. He also appreciates any nice comments or questions you might have, but he understands if you would have more fun just tearing into him. 80 Responses to “NY Post: Mets Still Make Pitch”Leave a ReplyYou must be logged in to post a comment. |
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batista is pretty much the only one i want. alfonseca would be a good minor league deal. dotel only wants a 1 year deal to prove that he deserves mucho $$. taverez is such a head case that it’s just not worth the risk to me. and definintely not for 4 years. In terms of nelson, I don’t know….minor league deal at most. and seanez i haven’t really seen, so i don’t know, but i hear he’s good. but tavarez is just not worth it. he’s good, but willie doesn’t need a headcase in his ‘pen.
Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I don’t like giving middle relievers multi-year contracts; when it comes to relievers it’s better to have quantity than quality because with quantity you have a wider, more flexible pool of players to choose from rather than being locked into one guy or another. Middle relievers, it seems to me, are pretty fungible because their stats can fluctuate from year to year, and so if you do your homework you can find a guy off the scrapheap (like a Roberto Hernandez) without draining your resources. I think Dotel, if healthy, can outperform Tavarez and at a fraction of the cost to boot; Batista is intriguing too, but I’d expect the Jays would want Heilman or someone like that for him, at which point I would say “no thanks”.
Seanez wouldn’t be a bad idea too on a 1 year deal (I can’t expect he’d command much more than that, because of his age and injury history).
I understand the point…but how can you be ok with giving Tavarez a three-year contract but think a 4-year is nuts…i mean come on…it’s gonna be one more year of say $3-5M tops. If they really want him and it takes the 4th year to get him, its’ fine. I agree it’s not a great contract but if that’s what the market dictates so be it. That 4th year won’t stop the mets from doing anything they need to do to compete so everybody relax.
Dotel is the only dominant pitcher listed here. Tavarez is a cancer and can’t get a big out. Batista is interesting becuase of his ability to start or close. I would love to send a package of Kaz, Heath Bell, Brian Bannister and cash for Danys Baez, then sign Dotel. This would not only give us one of the deepest pens in the league, but also allow Heilman move to the rotation if need be.
You also have to see what happens we may not need middle relief if Orber Moreno or tyler yates stays healthy.Though I would be fine with signing Taveras because I dont trust Yates as much as I do Moreno.When Moreno was pitching for the crapshack mets of 2004 his era was like 3 imagine how he would do with stars all around him.
I think Tavarez aka Freddy Kruger woudl be a good pick up - def not for 4 years though.
He’s a headcase - remember when Beltran golfed that homer off him 2004 NLCS
and Tavarez went ballistic in the dugout.
Dotel - clearly the highest upside of our possibilities. We should probably go for it and give him a modest 2006 salary with a lucrative (but non-ridiculous) 2007 option.
Seanez - age and injury history should make him affordable, and a worthy gamble. Throws 98 with a nasty slider (?) and strikes out a ton of guys.
Batista - can be a very good two-pitch reliever (GREAT splitter), or an avg-to-good 5-pitch starter. I like this guy, and I think he may be undervalued. If the Jays want parts we can afford to lose, GO FOR IT.
Tavarez - has put together a string of effective seasons, but will get more than he’s worth, considering that he’s not exactly dominant. Dunno if he’s a bad guy in general, but he’s DEFINITELY an emotional time-bomb.
Baez - an average reliever (no better than Tavarez) who’s managed to hold onto a closer job and is thus valued MUCH higher than he’s worth. STAY FAR AWAY, as he will cost us valuable assets and be totally replaceable.
J. Nelson - I’d only take him on a minor-league deal
Alfonseca - ditto
H. Bell - I like him and hope he succeeds. No idea if he actually will…
Moreno - he’s had so few stretches where he’s remained healthy that he’s really a complete unknown. Last I saw, his stuff was good but not amazing, and his location was mediocre. I would expect zilch from him in 2006. Maybe 2007…
Yates - great stuff, but I’ve never actually seen him look particularly adept at getting guys out. Don’t hold your breath for 2006.
Tavarez is a stud. You’d act that way if you looked like him, too, but the man can throw. Still, three years… sounds very Turk Wendell to me.
Batista has also been one of my favorites for years. But for us, he’s a luxury.
Is there no loyalty?
I understand Piazza is no longer with the Mets, but Tavarez beaned him!
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=250910124
As far as I’m concerned I wouldn’t want him on the Mets and if I were on the team last year I would still want to kick his as* no matter what Tony LaRussa said…
I wouldn’t care if he were the best reliever in baseball! Julian Tavarez and Guillermo Mota should NEVER be Mets!
Add Roger Clemens to this list as well…
If I’m not mistaken I THINK that Orber Moreno is a free agent. And I highly doubt the club is gonna resign him.
I really liked Yates.
I also kinda like Tavarez and also like the idea that he’s out of his f-ing mind. You need a guy like Tavarez, the Head Hunter. Add some character in the team. Don’t want to field the Brady Bunch out there.
Nope, there is no loyalty.
Remember last year all that big hoopla over Mike Piazza and Pedro Martinez? yeah… Even with that situation, I Love Pedro Martinez.
One of the keys to our pen this year if if a young guy like Fortunato, Moreno, or Yates can emerge as reliable. That said, I would certainly like to add Alfonseca though I don’t go past 2 years and though it may not be enough. 2 years and an option for Tavarez. And I agree with the guy who said personality is necessary to building a solid team.
Dotel is coming off a huge injury (and I’ve never forgiven him for allowing 7 first inning runs in Chicago on my birthday in 1999 because I was there)! Batista is the guy I’d really want, but I’m nervous about trading more prospects, which we don’t have many of now.
Hopefully with Omar’s eye and these new scouts we have, the farm system will show some more promise in 2-3 years or so.
Oh, come on, Benny — Pedro never drilled Mikey in the head, he just made some comments to the media after Piazza went after his cousin Mota. There’s no comparison between that and the exploits of Clemens, Tavarez, and Mota himself. I’m with ya, Bryan, I wouldn’t expect or want the Mets to welcome Tavarez onto the team.
As for Julian being a “stud”:
year K/9 opp avg / obp / slg
2003 4.20 .244 / .314 / .308
2004 6.72 .238 / .309 / .314
2005 6.44 .278 / .345 / .412
Good numbers, but from a reliever, I wouldn’t call them “stud”-worthy — especially last year’s.
I never said he could pitch, just that he could throw.
You make a good point Benny, he did drill Piazza in 1998 - causing him to miss three games.
Throwing at a guy’s head, though, inexcusable!
Hearing Tavares’ demands of 4/20, Bert sure sounds like a bargain at 2/6 (I know he got less, but thats what he wanted). You can’t use age as an excuse anymore either, Julio ruined that excuse and Bert was in fine form too. There are a lot more minor FA type deals out there than just Nelson, too. Last year was a laundry luist, not just Bert. It was Padilla, Aybar, Santiago, Hamulack to name the few that were up w the club; there were alot more that didn’t, but thats the point. You throw a lot of shit at the wall to see what sticks.
There are plenty of other options not being discussed.
Darren Dreifort made 11 million last year and had A terrible year for an 11 million dollar player, but if we sign him to a minor league deal or a small contract he could be as good as any of the guys discussed. Seanez had the best year of his life last year and will be way overpriced. Dreifort is just one of many guys not being talked about that should be given some consideration. Felix Rodriguez would be a worthwile guy to give a small contract to,in addition to gambling and offering a small deal to Urbina on the prosepects that he won’t get executed in a Venezulan prison. Matt Mantei would be a good guy to sign just so I can have him sign my Todd Pratt ball and thank him for giving me one of my greatest mets memories ever.
On A side note, if we are paying Kaz Matsui 7 Mill a year to play 2nd, why not offer Garciaparra 5 or 6 and have him take over. We arent subjected to the luxury tax anyway and Garciaparra would be an upgrade in every respect over KazMat.
I know we are looking to shore up the bullpen, but unless we can bring in Dotel, I don’t think anyone else is worth it. We have some pretty good options as it is - Bell, Padilla, Hamulack all are promising young arms. I hate to say it, but Aybar pitched damn well after he was demoted and I think he did well in winter ball as well. If he could turn it around, he would be a big plus, I mean the guy throws hard - he just was grooving too many pitches last year.
The way I see it, we are very well set with Wagner and Heilman. From there we need 4 arms to construct a reliable pen. We have four guys in house that have proven to be as effective as anyone available - who are also younger and cheaper BTW - so why trade for Batista or sign Alfonseca, etc.
I say we try to land Dotel to a 1 year incentive laden deal with an innings pitched vesting option for year 2 (and maybe 3). If he can bounce back, Wagner-Dotel-Heilman would be the best pen in the majors.
I think the real problem is that even though we have promising young arms, no one wants to put any faith in them. This team is built to win this year or the next. We can’t have us missing the playoffs or blowing a playoff game because of a promising arm that never came around. I personally think that Tyler Yates is going to be huge coming out of the pen, but we don’t really know that because we don’t have much of a sample to go on. Good pitches does not necessarily mean a good pitcher.
Picthers are the hardest to predict. Every year pitchers reinvent themselves a prime example is Heilmen who changed the way he pitched. I think you have to wait till st to see if any of the young arms will work.Now that i thre my 2 cents in, For kicks who thinks Roberto Hernanadez implodes and really was a one year wonder.
“Is there no loyalty?
I understand Piazza is no longer with the Mets, but Tavarez beaned him!
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=250910124
As far as I’m concerned I wouldn’t want him on the Mets and if I were on the team last year I would still want to kick his as* no matter what Tony LaRussa said…
I wouldn’t care if he were the best reliever in baseball! Julian Tavarez and Guillermo Mota should NEVER be Mets! ”
I couldn’t agree more. That’s one thing i hate about our recent teams that drives me nuts is that there are no ‘enforcers’. No guys like darryl strawberry who go to war for their teammates. No Mets teams of recent memory have EVER retaliated against anyone. I hate that. If your leader gets beaned, you better retaliate. These Mets teams have NO balls and should are a disgrace to their predecessors.
From what I read in the book “the worst team money could buy the 1992 NY Mets” (a gift from a friend of mine that is a huge yankee fan) Ray Knight was a bad ass that would, not only throw down at the drop of a hat but he was the toughest S.O.B on that team. You really don’t see that type of behavior in baseball in todays day and age anyway because of all the huge contracts and a lot of the guys have the same agent and know each other. That 86 team partied together and hung out together. I haven’t seen a Mets team that close since then.
In signing Roberto, the Pirates DFA’d Matt Peterson, a former favorite son traded for Benson. LOVE to see him come home
probably never will again….
this thought just occurred to me. Of course it’d be nice to stack out ‘pen with former closers of one form or another, but then again, they all want to be the stud. where does that leave our guys to fit into their roles and be accepting of their roles? I dont’ think it leaves our ‘pen very strong. The Best situation is for guys to know and embrace their roles. and then succeed in them.
Speaking of standing up for your teammates, does anyone else here remember the name of the rightfielder who retaliated against Clemens for Piazza’s beaning by standing on the dugout steps and gesticulating wildly? Where have the Derek “Operation Shut-down” Bells of yesteryear gone? *sniff*
Graves got really cranky back their. i don’t think he had any reason to beef. he sucked it up all year. there might have been 2 or 3 good performace out of him as a met. pathetic.
i think he was a roid user. drop 5 mph or so, and remember his skin was really bad (roid users get acne). i guess that’s not much to go on, but what else explains his sudden crappiness? i think his presence last year hurt the ‘pen more than it helped, in retrospect of course.
No Tavarez. Go cheap with this position.
I’m with sweetlew. Dotel or nothing. We don’t need to bring in a bunch of valises.
Maybe Graves was smoking weed, maybe his long hair was hitting his face, maybe he was eating too many hamburgers…there are a number of reasons an individual can have acne. Lets not go throwing random acusations out there just because he can’t pitch. The guy was never really a good pitcher. He was lucky the defense was in the way of the ball!
If anyone signs with the Mets to throw out of the bullpen, I think they do it knowing full well that Wagner is the stud and they are just another reliever…
Does anyone know if Mister Koo is still with the Mets? I know that he was designated for assignment once or twice during the season. He was a very solid releiver last year and one of few lefties in the ‘pen; I can’t imagine why the Mets didn’t treat him like the very valuable player that he was last year! Is he still alive ANYwhere in the system? He contributes from the mound and from the plate.
Nice one STUBZ…
Dear Metsgeek, Since you know all things Mets, do you know if there was a Charlie Lewis that played for the Mets in 1985? Might he have actually played for a farm team and got called up for a few games and not played the entire season? Any info you can provide will be helpful. Thanks.
Stubz, great reference. I thought he was an average closer for us, but was possibly one of the most entertaining players on the team. I cite two examples:
1) The very fact that he is called by our announcers “Mr. Koo”.
2) I hope everyone had the opportunity to watch Mr. Koo’s first MLB at-bat. It was hysterical and pathetic. He stood at the very edge of the batters box, as far from the plate as possible, looking like a timid freshman who knows he shouldn’t be playing on the varsity team. He put his bat on his shoulder, and his legs were completely stiff, as if he was being intentionally walked. It was obvious to everyone he wasn’t planning on taking a swing. He struck out looking on three straight pitches. After being made fun of by the media and probably lectured to by Willie, he had another at-bat a few days later. In this at-bat he hit a double. He’s awesome.
Frankie: No one by the name of Charlie Lewis (or Louis) ever played a Major League game for the Mets. (There was a “Johnnie Lewis” who played for a couple of seasons back in the 1960s, though.) As far as Spring Training or minor league games, that I don’t know. My source is the 2005 Mets Media Guide.
hey FW if peterson couldn’t cut it with the pirates you think he’d be alright for us…
guess that benson/keppiniger deal for wigginton/peterson (#2 pitching prospect for the mets at the time!) worked out for the mets…
Except for the fact that the Mets also gave up Justin Huber…who will be the Royals starting first baseman next year and a potential All Star.
Man, that is so underselling the story.
Like A Year said, he literally just watched 3 pitches go by with no intention of ever swinging in his first at bat. In the second, he was facing Randy Johnson, aka Death To Left-handers. So this foreign left-handed pitcher who looks as lost as a bad little leaguer kind of waddles up to the plate, to face probably one of the toughest left handed pitchers in history. The Yankees
homersannouncers start talking about how this just isn’t fair, how Mr. Koo doesn’t have a hope in the world of even making contact, about how he didn’t swing in his first major league bat, how left handers bat under Mendoza against Johnson, etc. Just ripping in to it, laughing it up. Koo walks up, still wearing his warmup jacket, and takes a ball and a strike without swinging. Then he takes the weirdest little uppercut hack against a Johnson fastball and ropes one into right-center, hustling his ass into second for a double. Disbelief everywhere (I’m jumping off the couch, laughing my ass off and mocking Johnson), Koo is smiling, knowing he just basically did the impossible. The announcers are falling all overthemselves, it was beautiful.The only thing that makes it better, though, is that two pitches later, Reyes lays down a sacrafice, and because the Yankees aren’t paying attention and again underestimate him, Koo scores from second easily. That was a great game.
Sorry Nails, we also lost Huber, who is already in the majors for the Royals after being among the minor league leaders in walks. (I can’t remember who the Royals gave the Pirates in that one — Jose Castillo?)
Except that the Mets also gave up Justin Huber in that deal. All he did was put up a 1.022 OPS in 330+ AA at bats, and a .905 OPS in 113 ABs in AAA. Maybe it still worked out, but there was some cost there, even if it wasn’t the Pirates who get the benefit.
Actually, it was a drag bunt attempt for a hit, and Posada fielded the bunt while moving toward first, so there was no one covering home. It wasn’t complete Yankee stupidity, it was just a gutsy move by Koo. And he didn’t score “easily” — he made a great slide to get around Posada’s tag, hurting his hand in the process. And I saw a replay that looked like he was out.
Wow I got 3 responses about Huber in that Benson deal…
Who is soooo great that KC is looking to sing Doug Eyechart to play first next season.
thats should be “sign” not sing
Doug Eyechart = Doug Mientkiewicz btw
No one named Charlie Lewis played for the 1985 Mets. You can find stuff like that out at http://www.baseballreference.com.
Surely we’re not holding up the Royals as the font of all baseball wisdom, are we? If the Royals sign Mientkiewicz to play ahead of Huber, they’re idiots. But we already knew that, didn’t we? If they sign him as a PH/late inning defensive replacement, that would be a decent move. In any event, the point is that if the deal had been only Wigginton and Peterson, we could already agree we’d won it. But given Huber’s potential, the possibility still remains we will look back at the deal and someday say, “If only . . . .”
Sam M I agree that we won’t know entirely until we find out what happens with Huber.
The point of my first post was to point out how high people were on Peterson as well.
I guess only if Huber turns into the next Mark Teahen will Met fans finally see that we sometimes the Mets know better than us - if a prospect truly has what it takes.
Well, sure. Sometimes they do. But with the regime running the Mets at that time? Sometimes they didn’t, too. That’s why we now have Victor Zambrano, after all. So they’re not perfect, and neither are we. Sometimes we praise ‘em — and we might be right (I loved the Pedro signing) or wrong (I loved the Alomar trade) when we do. And sometimes we nuke ‘em — and we might be right (Kazmir) or wrong (why are we signing Roberto Hernandez, who’s washed up!) when we do that, too.
Zack, you’re right, I did undersell the story because I was in a rush. Good job!
And yes, I too was laughing my ass off and jumping off the couch. It made McCarver look like the ass that he is.
Try Ultimate Mets Database — it will tell you everyone who ever put on a Mets uniform (great site for any mets fan)
Is it just me or why do people like this guy so much? Most years he gives up more hits than IP. BAA usually hovers near .270. Career WHIP is about a buck and a half. Strikeout and walk rates are just so-so. I’d pass, better options out there than to give up anyone of value for him.
As far as Peterson cutting it, I think he did have a rough stretch but his DFA is more of an indication of Pitt’s use of 40 man space more than any indication of MAtt’s ability. I don’t think the Mets got what they thought they were getting either though, do you? Huber was MVP of Futures game btw.
Breaking news
Braden Looper signs 3 yr. deal with STL
stl gave looper 4.5 per…
did the pirates get anything good for huber? we also traded away Bay but its harder to blame a team for trading a guy if another team after that also misses the signs. Huber was a catching prospect when we had him. Like Jacobs a couple years ago. He’s at first base now so he’ll be expected to him much better. I seem to remember him at the time we had him, hitting well for a catcher but not for a first baseman.
For those interested…
Overall, its 3 years for 13.5 million, which is a lot for a set-up guy, especially one who can’t get out lefties (though LaRussa will likely use him mostly as a ROOGY because of the way he manages a bullpen). This makes me think Tavarez will be able to demand what he wants.
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20051215&content_id=1282766&vkey=pr_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl
Looper signs a three-year deal with the Cards.
The thing that gets me so angry about the Huber trade was that it was totally unnecessary. We did it because the Pirates, for some reason, wanted Jose Bautista from the Royals. Bautista is a nobody. There is absolutely no reason we had to trade a prospect the caliber of Huber to get him. Even if Huber goes on to suck, it will still be a bad trade, because he could have fetched so much more in value.
As for Peterson, the reason the Pirates released him is because he’s been terrible since he was traded. But I wouldn’t mind giving him another chance - I’m sure his problems can be fixed in 10 minutes.
Peterson’s stats since he was traded:
2004: Altoona (AA), 3-2 W-L, 6.25 ERA, 36.0 IP, 22 BB, 29 K
2005: Altoona (AA), 11-9 W-L, 5.51 ERA, 143.2 IP, 74 BB, 87 K
I saw Peterson this year in the AFL. His problem is he doesnt have the stuff to miss up in the zone and that is what happens. I give him a chance if he gets with someone who will work keeping the ball down
I don’t care who’s in the bullpen next year - NO LOOPER!!!!
What are the Cards thinking??????
This deal really screws the market - Looper’s coming off surgery!
ESPN.com - MLB - Cardinals, Looper agree to $13.5M, three-year deal
They are thinking — quite correctly — that used correctly, Looper can be an effective relief pitcher. Put him in situations where he either avoids really dangerous left-handed hitters, or faces them only in non-game situations (e.g., three run lead, no one on base: let him face Abreu). He can be a fine set-up guy in a pen where there’s a counter-part to deal with game situations where lefties must be retired.
He’s really not that bad, but (a) Randolph just couldn’t/wouldn’t break out of the traditional closer usage pattern, and (b) Looper was hurt last year. He’ll do OK for the Cardinals.
To think differently for a moment; many of you rationalize that if Pitt discards a guy, MP, that he must suck, since they suck and rarely have success. Let’s turn that on its head and think for a moment: maybe Pitt sucks bc they never know how to 1) develop young talent or make traded youngsters, who they acquire often from trades of their few decent big league players, feel like they aren’t damaged for being traded. 2) Maybe they suck for giving up too soon or for not having the resources yo fix inadequacies in young talent.
For whatever reason his troubles are, he is a PRIME candidate to fill the Norfolk reunion team this year. If he worked out well enough to show it again whats the harm. We need alot of fillers in Norfolk right now anyhow. The starters are Bannister, Scobie, MacLane?, (Musser, Petit, Junge are all gone) so adding Peterson and another makes sense. Don’t say Soler, he’ll start in StLucie to stay warm in the FLA sunshine, same with Pelfrey. I’d think Deaton, Cordova, and maybe Edwards still need to be in AA again. Edwards may advance though, esp as a midrelief guy, it’d be wise to see if he could be a good 6th inn guy, or whatever.
can’t help it……soler (at least it was lower case). shhh… but he’s not going to AAA. I’d say it’s a possibility that he’d pitch in A, then move up to the bigs. It’s also a possibility that they stop him in AAA to get some better competition first. But I’d say this guy should probably be on the fast track, why not?
I know it’s a very small sample so far, but he’s produced. if he continues to produce at each stop, they will be short stops. unless our staff if doing well, in which case, they can wait. but they’re still paying this guy a couple mil.
And you think it’s worth giving him almost 14M just to pitch in “safe” situations? Thsi guy has been displaced so many times as a late reliever that I’m starting to believe he should be a 6th inning guy or a mop-up man - and certainly NOT for 14M. Jocketty usually makes some shrewd moves, but I don’t get this one, especially after he bi*ched last week about players getting too much money.
Why didn’t we just sign Roberto Hernandez to the $3 million/1 year contract that the Pirates signed him for? We probably could have gotten him for $2.5 considering who he signed with. And we wouldn’t be talking about a 4 year deal for Taverez, who scares me. I heard Pulois tore Tavares a new a-hole in the clubhouse for putting him in constant jeopardy of being head-hunted by opposing pitchers because of Taveres’s penchant for plunking other teams’ stars. He’s a hot head. Anybody sign Todd Jones yet? He had a great comeback year for the Marlins and was consistently throwing at 94 mph with movement. I’d give him a multi-year deal before Tavarez.
koo game was a classic indeed.
add oswalt to this list…i hate that guy.
What the hell is this an impostor Harry. Hey iam the orignal buddy. Anyhow why would you give Todd Jones a multiyear deal thats stupid hes 37yrs old and has never shown past success aas a closer he will prob turn out like Kolb or Looper did.
You say Soler has done well in each stop or the Mets, yet he hasn’t pitched in the Mets org yet.
Name the lasat mets pitcher who was treated this way.
last, sorry
Although the Soler article on mets.com may suggest otherwise; like a pen beginning or his Norfolk home may mean he goes to Nor after all. We’ll see.
1. Jimi
2. Derek
3. Eric
4. Jerry
5. Duane
6. Warren
7. Trey
8. Mikey
9. Steve K.
1. Eddie 2. Jorma 3. Pete 4. Carlos 5. George
fire willie, whats this list of people?
Sorry about that Harry. Anyhow, last year Jones proved to be a very good closer, one of the best in the NL as a matter of fact. Maybe the new Harry should replace the old Harry. ;-) Besides, my main point was why didn’t we just re-sign R. Hernandez as opposed to getting involved with the Taverez of the world for multi-year contracts? (I’ll call myself something else next time Har. Cheers.)
Naw its okay this sites big enough for 2 Harrys. but Harry this was a one year wonder for Jones hes gonna fall back down to earth this season.
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051216&content_id=1283146&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym
A very intresting article about Anderson Hernandez.
Since Seanez looks close to signing with Boston (and the Mets showed no apparent interest anyway), it looks like Jeff Nelson might be a viable option now for the Mets.
Any thoughts?
What are his stats? If hes still any good then a major league contract shouldent be a problem. Especially since we need a lefty
Jeff Nelson is actually a righty.
Anyway, here are his ‘05 stats with Seattle:
49 G 1-3 3.93 ERA
36 IP 17 R 16 ER 22 BB 34 K
.237 BAA 1.47 WHIP
Lefties BAA: .342
Righties BAA: .196
Well, at least it seems he can still get righties out.
Plus, he’d probably come here pretty cheap.
Egg on my face, but I think we have a surplus of rightys with heilmen , zambrano, padilla. A lefty wouldent hurt