General Discussion Thread 5/26/10: Tricky Dickey

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

Phillies never knew what was coming at them...

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

By that I mean the pitch fx of course.

[lucienlc]

He did a great job, esp considering that his other arm was getting progressively more and more painful and swollen as the game went on.

Interesting note on Valdes: he was a center fielder until he turned 18, when he was in a pickup neighborhood game and they needed a pitcher. He tried it and liked it. So small wonder he can hit.

Given Jerry's post-game comments about how good he is in the outfield during batting practice, calling him his fifth outfielder, maybe we should let him pinch hit and play CF instead of GMJr when he's not pitching. He's probably better. LOL!

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

He did a great job, esp considering that his other arm was getting progressively more and more painful and swollen as the game went on.

Interesting note on Valdes: he was a center fielder until he turned 18, when he was in a pickup neighborhood game and they needed a pitcher. He tried it and liked it. So small wonder he can hit.

Given Jerry's post-game comments about how good he is in the outfield during batting practice, calling him his fifth outfielder, maybe we should let him pinch hit and play CF instead of GMJr when he's not pitching. He's probably better. LOL!

Valdes has the same number of RBIs in 1/8th the ABs and one less XBH.

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

And the highest runs created per 27 outs, by a mile.

[Athena]

Phillies never knew what was coming at them...

Great title!

[lucienlc]

Yes, it really is a great title. Though I wonder if the younger members of our happy home are as familiar with Tricky Dickey as us oldsters.

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

Great title!

As you can tell by the timestamp, I take my coffee really early in the morning, gets the creative juices flowing.

[sheadenizen]

One of my fave games last night. It all worked. Pitching, fast and efficient...hitting, timely and situational. Little angst.
My kind of game. Is it too much to ask for more from Taka? I just worry who comes in after 6? yikes!

[Ed in Westchester]

Poor Nellie Figs.
So sad that he got cut.
Thinks the team is preoccupied by what others think.
Hmm. Pot, meet kettle.

Wonder if he's sad that they hit him hard last night?

[Ed in Westchester]

One of my fave games last night. It all worked. Pitching, fast and efficient...hitting, timely and situational. Little angst.
My kind of game. Is it too much to ask for more from Taka? I just worry who comes in after 6? yikes!

Don't worry, LOLlie's got it.

:ducks:

[sheadenizen]

Loved the title as well...well played MFBS!

[sheadenizen]

It is still so annoying that lollie won't get his ass to Buffalo to free up another spot for someone who manuel can actually use ( or abuse) and there's nothing the mets can do about it.

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

Poor Nellie Figs.
So sad that he got cut.
Thinks the team is preoccupied by what others think.
Hmm. Pot, meet kettle.

Wonder if he's sad that they hit him hard last night?

Yeah so he went to a team that brings up a non-factor opponent in their own WS celebration or that's managed by a guy that brings up the Mets in an interview about sign stealing when the accuser in question was the Rockies. Yup, they don't care what others say about them. I hope he regresses back to his AAAA self, go fuck yourself Figgy.

[Ed in Westchester]

It is still so annoying that lollie won't get his ass to Buffalo to free up another spot for someone who manuel can actually use ( or abuse) and there's nothing the mets can do about it.

well, there are a couple of things they could do about it

1. Just cut his worthless ass
2. Put him in a cab (see: Glavine, Tom and Sanchez, Duaner).

[Ed in Westchester]

Yeah so he went to a team that brings up a non-factor opponent in their own WS celebration or that's managed by a guy that brings up the Mets in an interview about sign stealing when the accuser in question was the Rockies. Yup, they don't care what others say about them. I hope he regresses back to his AAAA self, go fuck yourself Figgy.

this

[sheadenizen]

well, there are a couple of things they could do about it

1. Just cut his worthless ass
2. Put him in a cab (see: Glavine, Tom and Sanchez, Duaner).

of course you're right Ed, but you know they are not eating $20M. not happening. but he's totally worthless where he is now. you would think Boras would be all over his ass.

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

I wonder if Mrs. Figgy bitching on her blog last year or whatever it was last year didn't sit too well with the Wilps and Omar. Eventually they had to play him when everyone else was dropping like flies. I wouldn't put it past the Mets to hold grudges like that.

[Athena]

Yeah so he went to a team that brings up a non-factor opponent in their own WS celebration or that's managed by a guy that brings up the Mets in an interview about sign stealing when the accuser in question was the Rockies. Yup, they don't care what others say about them. I hope he regresses back to his AAAA self, go fuck yourself Figgy.

Hahaha! That's a little harsh. It's not really his fault that he's there and not here.

That said - I'm thrilled that we hit him hard. Maybe that will arrest the constant "poor Figgy" eulogies!

[Dep]

I concur, it was great to bend over figgy

you can only have so many friends in this bizness

fuck him and the philly horse he rides on

[Ed in Westchester]

Hahaha! That's a little harsh. It's not really his fault that he's there and not here.

That said - I'm thrilled that we hit him hard. Maybe that will arrest the constant "poor Figgy" eulogies!

this too

[sheadenizen]

I'm a bit confused. Did Figgy say something about the mets?

[Ed in Westchester]

I concur, it was great to bend over figgy

you can only have so many friends in this bizness

fuck him and the philly horse he rides on

Deppy b fired up!

Ed likes

[Dep]

Tricky Dickey

lol

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

of course you're right Ed, but you know they are not eating $20M. not happening. but he's totally worthless where he is now. you would think Boras would be all over his ass.

The thing that gets me is that it probably wouldn't cost a lot to get better (but still mediocre) production out of an RA Dickey type. They're paying him his $ whether he's with the team or not. It's really about the marginal cost of his replacement that they're not willing to budge on.

[Dep]

Deppy b fired up!

Ed likes

haha

you see the fringe finale yo? great stuff, right?

saw the first half of KICK-ASS last nite, omg that shit is funny

[Dep]

sidenote

it is WAY TOO HOT today

Casual summer rejected by bosses FTL. fuckers

[Ed in Westchester]

I'm a bit confused. Did Figgy say something about the mets?

oh, yes


After spending the past two seasons in Queens, during which he went 6-11 with a 4.28 ERA but gave Jerry Manuel a versatile arm at his disposal, Figueroa believed he had earned a spot on the Mets' pitching staff but was released in the final days of spring training.

Hard feelings? More than a few.

"While it's one person's decision and it's a business, they're shocked when you take it personally. It's hard to not," Figueroa said before the game. "In two years I gave them blood, sweat, tears, my heart and my soul - and it wasn't enough to make the team this year. If I would have cleared waivers, I told them I wasn't signing back....I shouldn't have had to prove that I belonged on this team."

Figueroa, 36, is 1-1 with a 5.09 ERA in eight outings for Philadelphia, a city the Brooklyn-born pitcher is happy to call home.

"To have the rug pulled out from under you, you have to find a way to refocus, and there's no better way than first place," Figueroa said. "This clubhouse is different....They don't panic early in April when we have a two-game losing streak and wonder if the manager is getting fired, or if the GM is getting fired. It's a good feeling to know there will be a tomorrow."

Does he have insight into the Mets' struggles so far this season?

"If I could put my finger on it I would be Jeff Wilpon's right-hand man," Figueroa said. "Somehow (the Phillies) got this group, somewhere along the line, to believe that they could do it and they will do it. They didn't have to force it. Day in and day out, no matter who is on the mound, we believe we're going to win."

And the Mets?

"Everyone worries about, 'Well, what did Jimmy Rollins say?' " said Figueroa, who believes the same drama never follows the Yankees because "when you're winning, people love a winner. When you're the second-best team in your city, there's always drama with that. There's always got to be a story, whether it's a story from within looking for attention somehow."

The Mets may be their own worst enemy at times, but they certainly created one in Figueroa. "When I became the odd man out, I asked why and they said, 'It's just the move we need to make' and thought that would be enough for me to explain it to my family," he said. "That's not enough when you've given your life and been taken away from your family to do this."

For one night, at least, the Mets were grateful he was doing it somewhere else.

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

I'm a bit confused. Did Figgy say something about the mets?

Yes, and according to him the players will be acutely aware of it.

[Athena]

well, there are a couple of things they could do about it

1. Just cut his worthless ass
2. Put him in a cab (see: Glavine, Tom and Sanchez, Duaner).

I think they are going to cut him eventually. But not until he's had ample time to prove that he is worthless in the pen. And that he isn't going to improve. But if he can't relieve, I think they will do it at some point.

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

sidenote

it is WAY TOO HOT today

Casual summer rejected by bosses FTL. fuckers

Biz casual or casual casual?

[Ed in Westchester]

haha

you see the fringe finale yo? great stuff, right?

saw the first half of KICK-ASS last nite, omg that shit is funny

YES! It was soooooooooo good.

great set up for next yr. gonna be real interesting.

I wonder how long b4 Peter figures it out.

MR SPOCK FTW!!!!

[Ed in Westchester]

sidenote

it is WAY TOO HOT today

Casual summer rejected by bosses FTL. fuckers

assholes

We get jeans Friday in the summer. Business casual every day all yr

of course, this Friday I have a client meeting in Newark, so I have to wear a suit

UGH

[Athena]

Deppy b fired up!

Ed likes

So does Athena! :)

[four3two1]

so i'm not a big reality tv person, and so I have never watched Dancing With the Stars and which is why i completely missed the HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWTNESSSS that is Erin Andrews....and bonus, she seems to be a fun person.

[Dep]

Biz casual or casual casual?

we pushed for biz cas, no jeans, must have collared shirts, etc. but my one damn boss is so fucking conservative

and she comes in with sneakers on and denim-wear sometimes, but she likes to be surrounded by ppl all dressed up

and the worst part is I ran out of non-cuff link shirts due to bad timing with the dry cleaning, so i got a fucking cuff-link shirt on today. BOO! they're such a pain in the ass to roll up sleeves

[Dep]

YES! It was soooooooooo good.

great set up for next yr. gonna be real interesting.

I wonder how long b4 Peter figures it out.

MR SPOCK FTW!!!!

hahaha, i guess mr. spock is no mas? he exploded or somethign. i cant believe olivia got jacked so easily, they need to show how they did that.

i bet peter figures it out when alternate olivia jumps his bones and is a wild woman in the sack. she looked pretty crazy in the bedroom scene where you first see her neck tattoo

[Dep]

so i'm not a big reality tv person, and so I have never watched Dancing With the Stars and which is why i completely missed the HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWTNESSSS that is Erin Andrews....and bonus, she seems to be a fun person.

yea, i peep screen caps of her outfits the next day. the one that was like 1/2 a dress was out of this world

[Dep]

assholes

We get jeans Friday in the summer. Business casual every day all yr

of course, this Friday I have a client meeting in Newark, so I have to wear a suit

UGH

haha, jeans! no way. sucks for friday. maybe it'll cool off a little. today i heard 93! fuck!

[Dep]

So does Athena! :)

.

[Athena]

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Hee!

[four3two1]

yea, i peep screen caps of her outfits the next day. the one that was like 1/2 a dress was out of this world

lol...have not done that. just saw a few youtube videos of her dances and interviews. i was trying to think back to all of the interviews she's done for espn and she's def a lot more reserved. also apparently she got clocked by a line drive during a Mets game lol

[Dep]

WCarroll on Tron


Speaking of Beltran, I'd thought that we'd see things moving very fast once he got to running. I was wrong. If anything, they're moving even more slowly, a real frustration for Mets fans. Even the New York media hasn't found much to report on. He's still jogging, but hasn't really added much to his workload. There's nothing resembling a sprint yet and there's nothing resembling a game on the horizon for Beltran. Sure, he was shifted to the 60-day disabled list, but that was a pure procedural move; the 60 days will be up very soon anyway. Until we see Beltran running hard, making cuts, or 90-degree turns, there's no way to do more than guess at a return. If you're a conspiracy-minded sort, you might wonder if the Mets aren't counting out the games before he's missed 90 days, a common elimination period for disability policies. I don't know whether or not Beltran and his knee have a policy and don't think that's what's going on here. I think it's more likely that the Mets will get to mid-June and decide whether they'll have to make a move, perhaps eating the $20 million in non-deferred money remaining on Beltran's contract.

[Dep]

I dont understand that blurb at all

[Dep]

Jackson, asked about the reports before Tuesday's game, said he "can't imagine" coaching anywhere else and dismissed the possibility of returning to the Bulls. As for the Nets, he finds them intriguing and said he'd "like to have a vodka" with Mikhail Prokhorov (who swears he doesn't touch the stuff).

lol

[Dep]

haha, Kunz pitched awesome last nite. spooky! he's a flyball guy now too, so strange

and Campbell finally busts out at AA

[sheadenizen]

I don't get the beltran thing either, but it sure doesn't sound promising in any way, shape or form.
I think it sounds like they better make plans without him.
I sure hope it doesn't mean that GMj becomes a permanent fixture.

[Athena]

I dont understand that blurb at all

Me neither. Why would they have to make a move? If they are paying him anyway, what action needs to be taken?

The Will Leitch article implied the same thing and I just don't understand what's left to do, besides wait around.

[Dep]

The very end is what i dont understand at all

what is he insinuating the mets are going to do to get out of the deferred money? i mean he talks about possibly having some disability insurance, but its not clear THAT is related to that very end part.

who knows

[sheadenizen]

Me neither. Why would they have to make a move? If they are paying him anyway, what action needs to be taken?

The Will Leitch article implied the same thing and I just don't understand what's left to do, besides wait around.

I assume they have to make a move unless they think that keeping GMj works. God forbid.

[four3two1]

Me neither. Why would they have to make a move? If they are paying him anyway, what action needs to be taken?

The Will Leitch article implied the same thing and I just don't understand what's left to do, besides wait around.

perhaps the move is whether or not to give up on him for this season and just shut him down completely.

[four3two1]

i forget if Beltran has an option for 2012

[Athena]

perhaps the move is whether or not to give up on him for this season and just shut him down completely.

Yeah, that makes sense. THat's possible. But it doesn't sound as if he's doing any harm working out. Rest doesn't help this injury it seems. So I don't see what would be gained one way or the other.

I'm missing something important, but I'm not sure what it is.

[Storkinator]

I got my bid in! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190398394834)

Ha, ha! You suckas are gonna be soooo jealous when I'm the proud owner of the rarest SUPER STRASBURG card evvvvvvah!

[Dep]

Shea

Thanks for contacting Eric last nite

Just so everyone knows....the metsgeek server was not at fault here, so any upgrade to a higher-cost server would NOT have prevented what happened last nite

the entire server site was down, everyone hosted in any regard on that site was fucked. and its a GOOD hosting site (not some rinky dink one) - so there's really nothing to be done. we'll just hope it was a rare occurrence

[Dep]

I got my bid in! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190398394834)

Ha, ha! You suckas are gonna be soooo jealous when I'm the proud owner of the rarest SUPER STRASBURG card evvvvvvah!

Chrome superfractor!

THE MARK MCGWIRE ROOKIE CARD!

/HSN

[lucienlc]

perhaps the move is whether or not to give up on him for this season and just shut him down completely.

The problem is that rest may not help with this - the only thing that just might help is microfracture surgery. But if they do that, the Mets lose him not only for this year, but next year as well. So nobody (incl Beltran) wants to do that unless it's totally unavoidable.
More likely, he'll play a few months in pain.

[lucienlc]

Has everyone seen the "I Like Ike" shirts that Ike is promoting in memory of his friend who died of cancer?
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/05/26/2010-05-26_ike_goes_to_bat_in_honor_of_pal.html

[Storkinator]

Hey I got like 6 of those USA McGwire cards. One of em I had Beckett rate a 9.5. I stopped collecting along time ago. Got some nice ones, but none are worth anything really.

[sheadenizen]

Shea

Thanks for contacting Eric last nite

Just so everyone knows....the metsgeek server was not at fault here, so any upgrade to a higher-cost server would NOT have prevented what happened last nite

the entire server site was down, everyone hosted in any regard on that site was fucked. and its a GOOD hosting site (not some rinky dink one) - so there's really nothing to be done. we'll just hope it was a rare occurrence

you're welcome!

[Dep]

When reached by phone Tuesday, Strawberry declined comment, but he’s let the Mets know he’ll never set foot in the clubhouse again. Darryl was wounded, but was nevertheless able to understand that his message – and the in-your-face delivery of yesteryear – no longer resonate in the new millennium clubhouse. .

[Athena]

The problem is that rest may not help with this - the only thing that just might help is microfracture surgery. But if they do that, the Mets lose him not only for this year, but next year as well. So nobody (incl Beltran) wants to do that unless it's totally unavoidable.
More likely, he'll play a few months in pain.

Right! I forgot about that he could still attempt the microfracture surgery. That must be the subtext.

[four3two1]

Yeah, that makes sense. THat's possible. But it doesn't sound as if he's doing any harm working out. Rest doesn't help this injury it seems. So I don't see what would be gained one way or the other.

I'm missing something important, but I'm not sure what it is.

true...unless its to shut him down because he needs further surgery. would microfracture surgery rule him out of 2011 too?

[Storkinator]

I'm pumped for Taka tonight. No reason why this can't be a competitive game with Blanton on the mound for Philly. I like our chances.

[four3two1]

lol n/m...i see the lucie was thinking along the same lines as me

[Dep]

more turmoil

we need more drama b4 tonight

someone cause a ruckus

[sheadenizen]

more turmoil

we need more drama b4 tonight

someone cause a ruckus

should be easy enough...these are the mets. they're always one ruckus away from oblivion.

[Storkinator]

I don't know what Straw said, but it couldn't have been all that offensive. Who knows. Maybe it was. But I'm getting the sense that some players are just a tad sensitive. Way to burn bridges.

[Athena]

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When reached by phone Tuesday, Strawberry declined comment, but he’s let the Mets know he’ll never set foot in the clubhouse again. Darryl was wounded, but was nevertheless able to understand that his message – and the in-your-face delivery of yesteryear – no longer resonate in the new millennium clubhouse.

The SNY guys discussed this in the booth yesterday. They all seemed to think that Strawberry had - with good intentions - blundered in his message. Both Ron and Keith said that they would never deliver unsolicited criticism and only give advice on request. And that media-types and ex-players who are not in the clubhouse on a regular basis really aren't in a position to comment and that Strawberry's comments were not especially well-informed.

[Dep]

should be easy enough...these are the mets. they're always one ruckus away from oblivion.

Give Omar a mic! he'll do something!

[sheadenizen]

Give Omar a mic! he'll do something!

jaknowwhati'msayin'?

[Storkinator]

I seem to remember Mex being critical of Piazza (or perhaps the team as a whole) while he was still playing for the Mets and Pizza not appreciating his comments all that much. Said Keith was a "voice from the grave". Made it very clear that he had no interest in hearing anything Hernandez had to say.

That's what I thought of when I heard Keith talk about it last night on the broadcast.

[Ed in Westchester]

hahaha, i guess mr. spock is no mas? he exploded or somethign. i cant believe olivia got jacked so easily, they need to show how they did that.

i bet peter figures it out when alternate olivia jumps his bones and is a wild woman in the sack. she looked pretty crazy in the bedroom scene where you first see her neck tattoo

I don't see her jumping him. I do think he will just notice the difference. He noticed it in the alt world.

[Dep]

Darryl probly got a wee too amped up during the talk and got in pplz faces a bit too much.

I would say frenchy overreacted, but bay took exception as well, and IMO, bay is a pro's pro

whatever. darryl really doesnt belong in the clubhouse to begin with. I've read plenty on him that made him out to be an awful teammate when he was on this team.

non-story IMO, but we need turmoil! fuck it, play it up!

Frenchy, go sleep with Darryl's wife now!

[Dep]

I don't see her jumping him. I do think he will just notice the difference. He noticed it in the alt world.

only cuz of the hair though right?

or you mean when real olivia dressed as the fake and he knew it was her? yea that's because she was so KICKASS lol

We'll see, i think alternate olivia was very interested in peter when she talked to olivia (right b4 they fought in her apt). she asked if they were together and looked very interested in olivia's answer.

we shall see!

I was also confused by peter telling walter at the end "you crossed universes TWICE to save me" - peter doesnt know about him being sick the first time yet tho, right? no one has told him that yet

[Storkinator]

I don't see her jumping him. I do think he will just notice the difference. He noticed it in the alt world.

His character is ridiculously intelligent. There's no way he doesn't catch on within the first few eps of the third season. My wife was like, WAIT! What just happened? I was shocked because she's usually pretty quick with stuff like this. I had to explain to her that there was a bait n' switch. I thought it was obvious well before she gave it away at the end with the hair flip.

[sheadenizen]

I heard Chris Carter on with the Steve Somers last night. He is a bundle of energy. He came on and said...Hi schmooze. Somers was hysterical laughing.
Carter talked about how hard he works on his defense and how improved he is. Hope so!

[Dep]

Mets have the best home record in the NL
and the worst road record in the NL

Home: 17-9
Road: 6-14

[Rave]

Under what capacity was Darryl speaking to the players?

[Dep]

His character is ridiculously intelligent. There's no way he doesn't catch on within the first few eps of the third season. My wife was like, WAIT! What just happened? I was shocked because she's usually pretty quick with stuff like this. I had to explain to her that there was a bait n' switch. I thought it was obvious well before she gave it away at the end with the hair flip.

yea i dont think they hid it that much

you could see alternate olivia get orders right b4 the grenade went off and that whole scene was odd which led you to believe something was up

then you saw her neck tattoo at the very end, same one you saw when she banging her man in the alti-verse

[Storkinator]

I was also confused by peter telling walter at the end "you crossed universes TWICE to save me" - peter doesnt know about him being sick the first time yet tho, right? no one has told him that yet

Even though no conversation has taken place between Peter and Walter regarding the first incident, ya gotta figure that at some point he was told what happened. Most likely by his real mom or pop on the other side. It's implied.

[Dep]

Under what capacity was Darryl speaking to the players?

Alumni/motivational speaker/crack is wack sponsor

[C Low's Doppelganger]

I heard Chris Carter on with the Steve Somers last night. He is a bundle of energy. He came on and said...Hi schmooze. Somers was hysterical laughing.
!

Awesome, how come Russ doesn't return. Need the Sweater also.

[sheadenizen]

Evan wants the mets to get Kevin Millwood and Ty Wigginton from the O's, but I didn't hear who he would give up for them.
He thinks it won't be tons because Millwood is a FA after the year.

[C Low's Doppelganger]

Under what capacity was Darryl speaking to the players?


I'm not sure but all I heard is that Darryl ripped off his shirt and told everyone "Who wants a piece!?!"

[Storkinator]

Bottom line: season 3 is going to friggin rock!

Although the one thing I will miss are the random cases that they solve away from the primary story line. You know that's gone now that they are so heavily invested in the alternate uni now. But I think having the show delve further into the lives of the alternate characters will make this show even more special.

[Dep]

WHERE IS ZE MAD DOG

[Dep]

Bottom line: season 3 is going to friggin rock!

Although the one thing I will miss are the random cases that they solve away from the primary story line. You know that's gone now that they are so heavily invested in the alternate uni now. But I think having the show delve further into the lives of the alternate characters will make this show even more special.

haha, ohhhhh i think they'll find a way to bring back "freak of the week" type cases

they'll figure something out

[Storkinator]

They are going to need to make the alternate characters seem more "human" if you will. Right now there isn't a viewer alive that isn't siding 100% with our beloved regulars. Somehow the writers have to make a case for the alternates and create a sort of conflict within the viewers.

[Dep]

They are going to need to make the alternate characters seem more "human" if you will. Right now there isn't a viewer alive that isn't siding 100% with our beloved regulars. Somehow the writers have to make a case for the alternates and create a sort of conflict within the viewers.

i totally agree

my prediction.....the "others" at some point cross over to ask walter and peter for their help to save their own universe, something will happen and all shit gets even worse on the other side.

perhaps walternate goes full evil and the fringe pplz on the other side turn against him and need help to stop him

walternate seems to have really misled them about the "evilness" of the pplz from our universe. so maybe at some point they discover that's not true at all and start to like our world and become allies or something

[Storkinator]

I'm sure everyone here is well aware of this by now, but it's my first time seeing it. Just went over to Cerrone's site and found the following:

"MLB announced yesterday that Phillies 2B Chase Utley, SS Jimmy Rollins, 3B Placido Polanco and OFs Jayson Werth and Shane Victorino all lead their respective positions in voting for the National League All-Star Team."

Really? Polanco and Victorino? Really? That's the best the NL has to offer at those positions? Really? I wish I had three hands so I could do a triple face palm.

[C Low's Doppelganger]

Anyone hear going to Baltimore and/or Chicago when the Metsies are in town? C Low and crew will be there so if you want to meet up let me know. Beer will be flowing

[Storkinator]

Yeah. Walternate is a one badass mofo. He is just plain evil. Creeps me out!

[Dep]

Anyone hear going to Baltimore and/or Chicago when the Metsies are in town? C Low and crew will be there so if you want to meet up let me know. Beer will be flowing

I'm going to Camden likely

Friday Night/Sunday Day games

[Storkinator]

Mets are visiting Camden Yards this year? Nice. I'd love to do that. Don't think it will happen though.

[Dep]

what was the explanation for why william bell didnt have a double in the alti-verse?

i cant remember now

[Dep]

Mets are visiting Camden Yards this year? Nice. I'd love to do that. Don't think it will happen though.

yupyup, very soon. 6/11-6/13

[Storkinator]

what was the explanation for why william bell didnt have a double in the alti-verse?

i cant remember now

He was killed as a younger man in a car accident. Never even had an opportunity to meet Walternate.

[Storkinator]

yupyup, very soon. 6/11-6/13

Oh screw that. I got stuff goin on all weekend. Can you believe I have a 40th bday party to go to? Nice people. My wife's cousins. But both are VERY well off. I mean, really. 40 is nice for him and his immediate family, but do we all need to gather around at some fancy place and celebrate it? You're not turning one! You've been alive for 40 years now. Big deal. I don't really care. Oh, and of course you have to bring some sort of gift even though they have money and don't need anything. WTF?!?

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

Damn it, my friend that lives down in the Balt-DC area is coming up to NY to get married that weekend. Otherwise I would love to go to Camden Yards.

[Storkinator]

That's funny. Coming up here for a function when they are going down there to play. You need to go down there and be all like, but I thought you were having the wedding at your place?!? Call it in while at the game with a beer in your hand. ;)

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

That's funny. Coming up here for a function when they are going down there to play. You need to go down there and be all like, but I thought you were having the wedding at your place?!? Call it in while at the game with a beer in your hand. ;)

Yeah of all the days or years to get married, that one. Weren't they in Camden two years in a row though? That probably won't happen for a while now. Maybe I'll go see the Rays when they're down there. Definitely don't want to see the Yanks or Sox.

[Dep]

He was killed as a younger man in a car accident. Never even had an opportunity to meet Walternate.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok ok , thanks

[Dep]

Oh screw that. I got stuff goin on all weekend. Can you believe I have a 40th bday party to go to? Nice people. My wife's cousins. But both are VERY well off. I mean, really. 40 is nice for him and his immediate family, but do we all need to gather around at some fancy place and celebrate it? You're not turning one! You've been alive for 40 years now. Big deal. I don't really care. Oh, and of course you have to bring some sort of gift even though they have money and don't need anything. WTF?!?

LOL. too funny

[Dep]

sweet shirt

[Dep]

.

[Storkinator]

The weekend before that is my birthday weekend (Saturday). I got a wedding on that day and a graduation party on Sunday. Back to back weekends of celebrating other people's accomplishments. Not to mention all the money we'll be shelling out in the form of gifts. Bleh.

[Storkinator]

Oooh. That is a sweet shirt!

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

The weekend before that is my birthday weekend (Saturday). I got a wedding on that day and a graduation party on Sunday. Back to back weekends of celebrating other people's accomplishments. Not to mention all the money we'll be shelling out in the form of gifts. Bleh.

Grads are for f*gs.

[Dep]

.

[Dep]

Oooh. That is a sweet shirt!

yup, the orosco silhouette makes it

[four3two1]

Anyone hear going to Baltimore and/or Chicago when the Metsies are in town? C Low and crew will be there so if you want to meet up let me know. Beer will be flowing

I may be going to Baltimore game as well.

[Dep]

Outfielder Kirk Nieuwenhuis drew praise from a scout who recently watched Binghamton. The scout said Nieuwenhuis, a former running back in high school who was recruited to play college football, has the speed to play center field and the arm to play right field. While the lefty-hitting Nieuwenhuis remains susceptible to curveballs from right-handed pitchers, he’s otherwise closed up a major hole on inside pitches. .

[Storkinator]

Grads are for f*gs.

LOL! I'm not sure what that means, but I really aint all that up for cutting a check in his honor. First cousin. See them a few times during the year. Love em dearly, but cmon. This blows.

[C Low's Doppelganger]

I'm going to Camden likely

Friday Night/Sunday Day games

Dep, we are going to Saturday Night's game. But we are doing our pre-game at a nearby bar (forgot the name) watching USA v England in the afternoon in the first game of the World Cup.

Want to meet up?

[Storkinator]

Is that Big Baby doin the Hannibal Lecter upper lip lick? CREEPY!

[Dep]

I'm very down to try and meet up BEFORE sunday's game in baltimore if anyone is there

friday night probly wont work for me

[Dep]

Is that Big Baby doin the Hannibal Lecter upper lip lick? CREEPY!

LOL. super creepy!

the GIF is actually called "Glenn Davis being creepy" lol

[Dep]

Dep, we are going to Saturday Night's game. But we are doing our pre-game at a nearby bar (forgot the name) watching USA v England in the afternoon in the first game of the World Cup.

Want to meet up?

maybe bro, I'm not exactly sure what my saturday out there entails, i gotta ask my boys and his uncle (who we are staying with)

I'm not going to saturday night's game, but am definitely up to meet you at that bar if i can work out the logistics with my crew

[Storkinator]

Is that some sort of nervous tick or is that his "thing"? Either way, everyone is spot on with the analysis: CREEPY!

[Dep]

The one issue i'll have is i think where we're staying is a good 30-40 mins from camden yards

I'm going to need to convince them to go into that area on saturday, not quite sure they'll be up to it, but i'll try

[Dep]

Is that some sort of nervous tick or is that his "thing"? Either way, everyone is spot on with the analysis: CREEPY!

LOL, no idea.

i think he's just creepy

[sheadenizen]

I'm sure everyone here is well aware of this by now, but it's my first time seeing it. Just went over to Cerrone's site and found the following:

"MLB announced yesterday that Phillies 2B Chase Utley, SS Jimmy Rollins, 3B Placido Polanco and OFs Jayson Werth and Shane Victorino all lead their respective positions in voting for the National League All-Star Team."

Really? Polanco and Victorino? Really? That's the best the NL has to offer at those positions? Really? I wish I had three hands so I could do a triple face palm.

They really should change the name to something else other than the All Star Game. It's not all Stars. It's a popularity contest. Jeter and Teixiera have no place leading their positions either. It's ridiculous.

[Ed in Westchester]

only cuz of the hair though right?

or you mean when real olivia dressed as the fake and he knew it was her? yea that's because she was so KICKASS lol

We'll see, i think alternate olivia was very interested in peter when she talked to olivia (right b4 they fought in her apt). she asked if they were together and looked very interested in olivia's answer.

we shall see!

I was also confused by peter telling walter at the end "you crossed universes TWICE to save me" - peter doesnt know about him being sick the first time yet tho, right? no one has told him that yet

When he spoke to Alt-Liv, he said "You two are nothing alike" the mannerisms are different.

I think with Peter he must have been told off camera why Walter took him to begin with.

[Storkinator]

But at least Jeter and Teixiera have track records. They are GREAT players. Who the hell are Polanco and Victorino? Jeter and Teixiera can turn it on in the AS game and light up the NL. What the hell are Polanco and the Flying DBag gonna do for the NL? Awful.

[four3two1]

i think they should do away with paper ballots. teams that are doing well and selling out are obviously going to get more votes. and they go crazy pushing the all star voting at CBP.

[sheadenizen]

Oh screw that. I got stuff goin on all weekend. Can you believe I have a 40th bday party to go to? Nice people. My wife's cousins. But both are VERY well off. I mean, really. 40 is nice for him and his immediate family, but do we all need to gather around at some fancy place and celebrate it? You're not turning one! You've been alive for 40 years now. Big deal. I don't really care. Oh, and of course you have to bring some sort of gift even though they have money and don't need anything. WTF?!?

make a donation to a charity in his name.

[Dep]

maybe the mets have a dynasty in the alterverse!

[Storkinator]

make a donation to a charity in his name.

That is an EXCELLENT idea. I will discuss this with my wife tonight after work. Never even thought of it. Thank you, shea!

[Ed in Westchester]

Walternate being "evil" is a clue to what Bell said to Walter just b4 they went back home.
"You asked why I did that to you? You asked me to. You didn't like what you were becoming"

I think that means Walter was becoming a tad bad, and taking out those parts of his brain was a way to stop it.

I have some concerns about Bell though. He said he had never met Walternate, but then insinuatated that he is close to him in the alt-verse, designing weapons. Makes me think he was in on the Liv-switch.

I could be wrong though.

[Dep]

.

[Ed in Westchester]

maybe the mets have a dynasty in the alterverse!

nah, they'll make it be the cubs.

the cool thing is Boston is a no-go zone, so no Bosox.

Too bad they didn't have the Bronx be that too. They made it LI instead.

That scene when Bell and Walter were driving through a wasteland was eerie.

[Dep]

Walternate being "evil" is a clue to what Bell said to Walter just b4 they went back home.
"You asked why I did that to you? You asked me to. You didn't like what you were becoming"

I think that means Walter was becoming a tad bad, and taking out those parts of his brain was a way to stop it.

I have some concerns about Bell though. He said he had never met Walternate, but then insinuatated that he is close to him in the alt-verse, designing weapons. Makes me think he was in on the Liv-switch.

I could be wrong though.

yes yes, good pt about walter becoming evil

i think bell is DEAD now....we'll see. my impression was he exploded into an atom bomb giving them the energy needed to get home

yea, i kinda forget what he said about not knowing walter-nate, but he certainly admitted to giving him the shape-shifting technology to stay close to him. bell certainly comes off like not totally trust-worthy

interesting thought on bell being on the liv/switch...because oliva was CLEARLY standing next to bell right b4 the grenade goes off and you never see what happens soooooo who knows! interesting....

you know what i found a little odd? that our olivia was so broken down in that cell at the end - i dont know...olivia is tougher than that. maybe they tortured her or she dont like small spaces but she was broke

[Ed in Westchester]

.

LMAO!

I LUVZ IT!!!!

[sheadenizen]

But at least Jeter and Teixiera have track records. They are GREAT players. Who the hell are Polanco and Victorino? Jeter and Teixiera can turn it on in the AS game and light up the NL. What the hell are Polanco and the Flying DBag gonna do for the NL? Awful.

sorry. i thought it was about your body of work for THIS year. That's what is what supposed to be. if it's a lifetime achievement award then that's something else.....

[four3two1]

make a donation to a charity in his name.

May I suggest the Human Fund

[C Low's Doppelganger]

.


hehehehe

[Storkinator]

I aint no Jets fan and I have no animosity towards the Fins. But I want that shirt!

[sheadenizen]

That is an EXCELLENT idea. I will discuss this with my wife tonight after work. Never even thought of it. Thank you, shea!

my pleasure, storky!

[Storkinator]

sorry. i thought it was about your body of work for THIS year. That's what is what supposed to be. if it's a lifetime achievement award then that's something else.....

Oh I agree, shea. I'm just pointing out the fact that the Yankee boys at least are great players. The other two... not so much. That's all.

[Ed in Westchester]

Another thing that is odd in the alt-verse is they have these cool guns, and other tech, but use dirigibles, not planes.
you would think they would be able to have that tech.
and also that they would have the tech to stop the problems Walter caused. Shit, they have nanotech to heal wounds fast (like they did with Walter)

I wanna know what Alt-Charlie's got that he has to keep taking those shots. "It's not worms"

[Storkinator]

May I suggest the Human Fund

Yes. And a Happy Festivus to you too!

[Dep]

nah, they'll make it be the cubs.

the cool thing is Boston is a no-go zone, so no Bosox.

Too bad they didn't have the Bronx be that too. They made it LI instead.

That scene when Bell and Walter were driving through a wasteland was eerie.

ah yes, boston is gone more or less LOL - oh well!

yea the wasteland was creepy

i enjoyed the alternate universe, i thought it was cool. i LOVE that they are using blimps and other airship tech, gives it a cool feel

[Dep]

Another thing that is odd in the alt-verse is they have these cool guns, and other tech, but use dirigibles, not planes.
you would think they would be able to have that tech.
and also that they would have the tech to stop the problems Walter caused. Shit, they have nanotech to heal wounds fast (like they did with Walter)

I wanna know what Alt-Charlie's got that he has to keep taking those shots. "It's not worms"

i agree

n LOL> i think he said its spiders!

its cool we see characters on that side that are gone on our side. was olivia's man that john scott dude? the traitor from the first few eps (human target guy) or someone else?

[sheadenizen]

.

Brooklyn needs to do a Nieuwenhuis bobble head night, too. Come on. Give the guy his due. That's how we all became fans!

[Dep]

yay


The agent for Islanders prospect Travis Hamonic tells Point Blank that a deal between the team and his client will be finalized this week.



“For all intents and purposes, we’re there,” said agent Craig Oster of a three-year, Entry Level contract with Garth Snow for the impressive defense prospect. “We completed some of the work before the Memorial Cup and then took a break. We didn’t want there to be any distractions for Travis. Now we’re back at it and you should hear something in the next few days.”



The Islanders have until the end of May to sign Hamonic, whom they selected with their third pick in the second round of the 2008 draft.



Although some signs have pointed to the Islanders throwing Hamonic directly into the NHL in 2010-11, Oster was wisely more cautious.



“He’s a great kid and a great prospect who you can be confident will get the most out of his talent. He cares so much and has that drive to succeed,” said Oster. “I just don’t know if he’s a guy anyone expects to play right away. Travis will be the first to admit he still has a lot to learn.”

[Dep]

Brooklyn needs to do a Nieuwenhuis bobble head night, too. Come on. Give the guy his due. That's how we all became fans!

hahaha, tru tru

[sheadenizen]

hahaha, tru tru

what night is the Davis one? Are we getting tickets?

[Dep]

bye bye holt


Right-hander Brad Holt, the 33rd overall pick in the 2008 draft out of UNC Wilmington, continues to struggle. Holt dropped to 0-4 with a 13.20 ERA in six starts with the B-Mets after allowing seven runs on eight hits and four walks in 2 2/3 innings Friday. A scout who watched Holt’s latest outing, during which 12 of 20 batters reached base, noted Holt’s fastball ranged between 88-91 mph and nearly every pitch was above the hitters’ belts

[Dep]

what night is the Davis one? Are we getting tickets?

dont know yet, i'd like to go if possible

we have to keep an eye/ear out for it

[Dep]

HWG! August 2nd, a monday=sigh


HEAD OVER HEELS FOR IKE
05/17/2010 1:16 PM

On Monday, August 2, fans will get one of the most unique giveaways ever -- an upside-down Ike Davis bobblehead!

Davis made his pro debut with the Brooklyn Cyclones on June 26, 2008. The highly-touted first-round pick out of ASU doubled in his first at-bat, and proceeded to notch at least one hit in his first 15 straight games. Less than two years later, Davis is now starring at first base for the New York Mets, and has become something of a cult hero, thanks in part to three specific catches he's made that have all had a similar stuntmanesque theme. Each time, he has flipped over the dugout railing to catch a foul ball in spectacular fashion.

The high-demand Cyclones' bobblehead depicts the Brooklyn alum making just such a catch, and stands 7" tall.

The Ike Davis bobbleheadwill be given to the first 2,500 fans in attendance on Monday, August 2 . First pitch is scheduled for 7pm, with the MCU Park gates opening at 5:30pm.

[Dep]

Jeff Wilpon is taking a gamble by installing Backman at Class-A Brooklyn, but it's worth a shot. Wilpon, in fact, told Backman over the winter that he'll someday manage the Mets – if he can stay out of trouble..

[sheadenizen]

dont know yet, i'd like to go if possible

we have to keep an eye/ear out for it

okay!

[Athena]

HWG! August 2nd, a monday=sigh






Can you even go on a Monday?

[sheadenizen]

The Ike Davis bobbleheadwill be given to the first 2,500 fans in attendance on Monday, August 2 .
we'll have to get on line on August 1. 2,500? that stinks!

[Ed in Westchester]

i agree

n LOL> i think he said its spiders!

its cool we see characters on that side that are gone on our side. was olivia's man that john scott dude? the traitor from the first few eps (human target guy) or someone else?

Didn't look like him. Don't recall hearing his name.

[four3two1]

ehh...just ebay those suckers.

[Dep]

I will do everything possible in my power to be able to go.

Lets get tickets in the next few weeks.

[Dep]

Didn't look like him. Don't recall hearing his name.

yea i didnt think it looked like him either.

so i guess we could still see him on the other side, + some other ppl we havent seen yet. the chick from Global Dynamics too

[Dep]

we'll have to get on line on August 1. 2,500? that stinks!

LOL, yea that could be a problem. i dont know how early i can make it out there

[sheadenizen]

I will do everything possible in my power to be able to go.

Lets get tickets in the next few weeks.

put in for a vacation day, now!

[Dep]

i may put in for monday and tuesday!

and we can make a day out of it! and go out like 2pm and get hammered!

that would be awesome. it is summer , i may be able to pull that off. after june, i dont have any vacations put in for

i may not even be able to go baltimore, amazing the amt of shit i got for going to that bachelor's party. fuck em all!

[Ed in Westchester]

i may put in for monday and tuesday!

and we can make a day out of it! and go out like 2pm and get hammered!

that would be awesome. it is summer , i may be able to pull that off. after june, i dont have any vacations put in for

i may not even be able to go baltimore, amazing the amt of shit i got for going to that bachelor's party. fuck em all!


HOW DARE THEY?!?!?!?!

[Rave]

The Ike bobblehead should be wearing #29.

I hope Carter plays tonight.

[Joe A.]

make a donation to a charity in his name.

Damn, way too slow

[sheadenizen]

The Ike bobblehead should be wearing #29.

I hope Carter plays tonight.

Frenchy will get rewarded for doing what he should have been doing all along....making contact. Carter will get a kick in his teeth for his efforts.
Hope I'm wrong!

[Athena]

I will do everything possible in my power to be able to go.

Lets get tickets in the next few weeks.

Cool!

[Dep]

HOW DARE THEY?!?!?!?!

indeed!

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

Show up to work in casual clothes and go to the game. That will show them.

[Athena]

i may put in for monday and tuesday!

and we can make a day out of it! and go out like 2pm and get hammered!

that would be awesome. it is summer , i may be able to pull that off. after june, i dont have any vacations put in for

i may not even be able to go baltimore, amazing the amt of shit i got for going to that bachelor's party. fuck em all!

That's ridiculous! You never take any time off. I know they all work hard there, but they're out of their minds if they are bitching about a 5-day weekend. Screw them!

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

That's ridiculous! You never take any time off. I know they all work hard there, but they're out of their minds if they are bitching about a 5-day weekend. Screw them!

You need to be Dep's ombuds-woman.

[Future]

Your workplace sounds like the Devil, Dep.

[Danny]

If Dickey ever ran off the field throwing up a couple of Vs with his hands I think I would die laughing.

[Athena]

You need to be Dep's ombuds-woman.

Heh! I'd be happy to do it!

I've worked in similar places. The culture gets so focused on the high productivity that they forget that it can be taken too far. Sooner or later it costs more than it helps. But no one ever see it that way.

[Athena]

If Dickey ever ran off the field throwing up a couple of Vs with his hands I think I would die laughing.

Hahaha! I read that three times before I got it!! ;-)

[Chris in Ga]

I think Carter should play vs righties and frenchy vs lefties.

[Ed in Westchester]

If Dickey ever ran off the field throwing up a couple of Vs with his hands I think I would die laughing.

he-he

someone get Catchdog on this!

[Ramon Suarez]

I think Carter should play vs righties and frenchy vs lefties.

If that wont be the case now, it should certainly be the case if Beltran comes back and Pagan has to sit. Pagan can hammer righties, and Frenchy is sufficient enough against southpaws.

[Ramon Suarez]

Jeff Wilpon is taking a gamble by installing Backman at Class-A Brooklyn, but it's worth a shot. Wilpon, in fact, told Backman over the winter that he'll someday manage the Mets – if he can stay out of trouble..

Where did this quote come from?

[Ed in Westchester]

yay

I like Hamonic. He has good upside.

Did you see they cancelled the China training camp? Wang blamed the NHLPA.

[CatchDog]

someone get Catchdog on this!

I’m on it, Warden !

[Ramon Suarez]

Outfielder Kirk Nieuwenhuis drew praise from a scout who recently watched Binghamton. The scout said Nieuwenhuis, a former running back in high school who was recruited to play college football, has the speed to play center field and the arm to play right field. While the lefty-hitting Nieuwenhuis remains susceptible to curveballs from right-handed pitchers, he’s otherwise closed up a major hole on inside pitches.

:-)

[Ed in Westchester]

I’m on it, Warden !

LMAO

that would be so fucking funny.

[Ed in Westchester]

:-)

last night

CF Kirk Nieuwenhuis: 3-4, 3 R, HR, 2 RBI, BB, CS (.299/.335/.481); not a bad night’s work

night b4

CF Kirk Nieuwenhuis: 0-5, 2 K (.290/.323/.459) Struck out with the tying run at second to end this one; rough night.


On another front, Parnell from night b4 last
RP Bobby Parnell: 1 IP, 2 ER, 3 H, 3 K, 1 HR (0-1, 5.11, 24.2 IP, 26 H, 14 BB, 27 K, 2 HR) There was some chatter in yesterday's report about a nice rebound from BP but I just don't see it; he's given up at least 2 earned runs in 4 of his last 10 appearances

[CatchDog]

I really don't know the guy. And I'm not anywhere near the team for a while.

But I love what he adds to the team. Taka, Valdes and RA have been a huge addition to this team. Hopefully, Igarashi gets added to that list too.

[Dave Magadan]

afternoon all! Figgy rips Mets:

“The reward system in that organization just isn’t there for a minor league guy,” he explained, pointing out how a player like OF Jesus Feliciano can perform at Triple-A, but then be passed over. “They jump people they want from other levels.”

Also saying they were more concerned about other teams than themselves.
Bad Figgy...

[Rave]

We were not aware that, occasionally, when the Mets are losing, Darryl Strawberry just comes by and starts yelling at the team. Did you know that? They just let him go in and do that? Apparently they do.

Apparently, last Thursday, before the Yankees series, Strawberry came in the Mets' dugout in Washington and started yelling at the team. It seems to have been about withstanding criticism, like, say, the criticism he was yelling at the team that very second.

Strawberry gave an impromptu "pep talk" to some of the Mets stars last Thursday in Washington, imploring them to ignore the criticism and just play. A pair of newer Mets — identified on WFAN as Jeff Francoeur and Jason Bay — were said to be bothered by it right after it happened.

No wonder both Keith and Ron were not siding with Straw yesterday.

I'm still wondering if he came in as a beloved ex-player ala Reggie, or as an employee of SNY.

[Dave Magadan]

last night

CF Kirk Nieuwenhuis: 3-4, 3 R, HR, 2 RBI, BB, CS (.299/.335/.481); not a bad night’s work

night b4

CF Kirk Nieuwenhuis: 0-5, 2 K (.290/.323/.459) Struck out with the tying run at second to end this one; rough night.




On another front, Parnell from night b4 last
RP Bobby Parnell: 1 IP, 2 ER, 3 H, 3 K, 1 HR (0-1, 5.11, 24.2 IP, 26 H, 14 BB, 27 K, 2 HR) There was some chatter in yesterday's report about a nice rebound from BP but I just don't see it; he's given up at least 2 earned runs in 4 of his last 10 appearances

He's still pretty young too. He doesnt turn 23 till late summer. He needs to get a little more control over the strike zone. I'm hoping he can help somewhere down the line. Kirk that is.

[Ramon Suarez]

last night

CF Kirk Nieuwenhuis: 3-4, 3 R, HR, 2 RBI, BB, CS (.299/.335/.481); not a bad night’s work

night b4

CF Kirk Nieuwenhuis: 0-5, 2 K (.290/.323/.459) Struck out with the tying run at second to end this one; rough night.


On another front, Parnell from night b4 last
RP Bobby Parnell: 1 IP, 2 ER, 3 H, 3 K, 1 HR (0-1, 5.11, 24.2 IP, 26 H, 14 BB, 27 K, 2 HR) There was some chatter in yesterday's report about a nice rebound from BP but I just don't see it; he's given up at least 2 earned runs in 4 of his last 10 appearances

I like every aspect of Kirk's game except one: his K rate is redonkulously high. Dude has 12 Ks and 1 BB in his last 10 games. He might be tired or whatever because he also was 0-2 on SB attempts in that time when he was 10 for 10 for season. But the dude is rounding into something toolsy as long as he can figure out a way to be more discerning at the plate and up his OBP% while cutting down his Ks.

Parnell is such a mixed bag. He is King alot more dudes, but he is also giving up alot more hits.

[Ed in Westchester]

I really don't know the guy. And I'm not anywhere near the team for a while.

But I love what he adds to the team. Taka, Valdes and RA have been a huge addition to this team. Hopefully, Igarashi gets added to that list too.

I got ya. I didn't expect it to really happen (I mean, the Philth would be HORRIFIED). But it would be the funniest damn thing.

He and the others noted have been very valuable. I agree, hopefully Iggy falls into that category. Soon.

[Ed in Westchester]

afternoon all! Figgy rips Mets:

“The reward system in that organization just isn’t there for a minor league guy,” he explained, pointing out how a player like OF Jesus Feliciano can perform at Triple-A, but then be passed over. “They jump people they want from other levels.”

Also saying they were more concerned about other teams than themselves.
Bad Figgy...

We already killed him. But feel free to pile on.

[sweetlew]

Parnell is such a mixed bag. He is King alot more dudes, but he is also giving up alot more hits.

THis is an an improvement of you saying he just sucks!

[sweetlew]

What's up all? The new job has me HOPPING!

[Ramon Suarez]

afternoon all! Figgy rips Mets:

“The reward system in that organization just isn’t there for a minor league guy,” he explained, pointing out how a player like OF Jesus Feliciano can perform at Triple-A, but then be passed over. “They jump people they want from other levels.”


He's actually very right on with this point. Its been an issue of the org's for years and we've all recognized it too. Guys who are overpaid like Sean Green, Gary Matthews Jr. and Little Cat should be dismissed for dudes like Figueroa, Feliciano and Carter....we'd be a better team for it.

[Ed in Westchester]

What's up all? The new job has me HOPPING!

LEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so funny how you show up right when the Parnell blurb shows up.

[Dave Magadan]

We already killed him. But feel free to pile on.

Haha I should've figured that.lol He couldnt be talking about himself could he. Hes only appeared in 7 games for the PHils...he would've been in 23 for us if he would've made the team...where is Sean Greene btw is he done for the year.

[DL]

well whatever

i guess figgz is right about the "reward system"

and maybe we're too "concerned" about other teams, but then what are the phillies?

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

Yeah we told him to go fuck himself. We're pulling for Dickey now.

[sweetlew]

LEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so funny how you show up right when the Parnell blurb shows up.

My timing remains perfect!

Parnell seems to be making progress -- his K-Rate is through the roof and the walk rate down.

I know some of the hits are the ground ball single types -- but he gave up a HR the other day

[Dave Magadan]

I guess it goes to whoever is in Jerrys favor. Look at Omir last year. They traded Castro when he was doing good. Evans gets sent down when he was crushing it last Spring. Mejia gets to stay this spring. And Jordany Valdesping was getting a long look this spring as a player of the future.

[sweetlew]

I guess it goes to whoever is in Jerrys favor. Look at Omir last year. They traded Castro when he was doing good. Evans gets sent down when he was crushing it last Spring. Mejia gets to stay this spring. And Jordany Valdesping was getting a long look this spring as a player of the future.

This system would work if Jerry was a freaking retard

[Dave Magadan]

This system would work if Jerry was a freaking retard

exactly

[lucienlc]

We already killed him. But feel free to pile on.

I don't know why everyone killed him, apart from the fact that he's an ex-Met. I don't blame him for being bitter. And practically everything he said is true. He and Misch and Taka outperformed Perez and Maine by a ton in spring training, yet all were bumped to the minors and/or DFAed like Figgy. Jacobs got the start at 1B despite being useless. Carter vastly outproduced Cat and GMJr, and was dumped to AAA. GMJr even got the start over Pagan and the first shot at being the everyday guy for reasons beyond comprehension. The Mets don't operate on a merit system. If the Mets were stupid enough to give someone a major league contract, they make the team even if they're worthless.

[Ramon Suarez]

My timing remains perfect!

Parnell seems to be making progress -- his K-Rate is through the roof and the walk rate down.

I know some of the hits are the ground ball single types -- but he gave up a HR the other day

LOL @ progress. Dude is still surrendering hits and ERs.

[lucienlc]

Btw, I'd love to try to make the Aug 2 game, but it's too early for me to know if I can go.

[sweetlew]

I don't know why everyone killed him, apart from the fact that he's an ex-Met. I don't blame him for being bitter. And practically everything he said is true. He and Misch and Taka outperformed Perez and Maine by a ton in spring training, yet all were bumped to the minors and/or DFAed like Figgy. Jacobs got the start at 1B despite being useless. Carter vastly outproduced Cat and GMJr, and was dumped to AAA. GMJr even got the start over Pagan and the first shot at being the everyday guy for reasons beyond comprehension. The Mets don't operate on a merit system. If the Mets were stupid enough to give someone a major league contract, they make the team even if they're worthless.

This is true, but this isn't something that is solely an issue with the Mets.

This is a business, and if you have millions invested in an asset, you are going to give that asset an opportunity to do something positive before eating your money.

The frustrations with the Mets is that they can afford to eat these contracts and they don't

[Ramon Suarez]

I don't know why everyone killed him, apart from the fact that he's an ex-Met. I don't blame him for being bitter. And practically everything he said is true. He and Misch and Taka outperformed Perez and Maine by a ton in spring training, yet all were bumped to the minors and/or DFAed like Figgy. Jacobs got the start at 1B despite being useless. Carter vastly outproduced Cat and GMJr, and was dumped to AAA. GMJr even got the start over Pagan and the first shot at being the everyday guy for reasons beyond comprehension. The Mets don't operate on a merit system. If the Mets were stupid enough to give someone a major league contract, they make the team even if they're worthless.

Sometimes I actually wished the Mets weren't such a large spending ballclub because it would force them to be more efficient and creative in their decision making. The difference that this team overspent from the Phillies was really the extra bad contracts they wasted on underperforming players. So then, what is the point of spending so much more if it goes to guys who shouldn't be starting to begin with?

[Dave Magadan]

I don't know why everyone killed him, apart from the fact that he's an ex-Met. I don't blame him for being bitter. And practically everything he said is true. He and Misch and Taka outperformed Perez and Maine by a ton in spring training, yet all were bumped to the minors and/or DFAed like Figgy. Jacobs got the start at 1B despite being useless. Carter vastly outproduced Cat and GMJr, and was dumped to AAA. GMJr even got the start over Pagan and the first shot at being the everyday guy for reasons beyond comprehension. The Mets don't operate on a merit system. If the Mets were stupid enough to give someone a major league contract, they make the team even if they're worthless.

To be fair its not like they never gave Figgy a chance at all...I wish he was still w/ the team. He was a fav of mine. And yes those moves like Jacobs and GmJ being kept are dumb moves. The thing is Jerry and Co. will not admit the mistake and ride it out till you get a lowlight reel of Murphy in Left Field last year.

[sweetlew]

LOL @ progress. Dude is still surrendering hits and ERs.

Periphials like K's and BB's mean a lot.

And yes, he is giving up hits, but very few for extra bases --- not seeing the games in person make it impossible to fairlyjudge whether he is being hit hard or if he is unlucky.

[sweetlew]

Okay -- that's my cameo for the day.....I need to get back to work --- later all!

[DL]

HWG! August 2nd, a monday=sigh






lol, he better not have hit a rookie wall by the time these are given away

[Athena]

well whatever

i guess figgz is right about the "reward system"

and maybe we're too "concerned" about other teams, but then what are the phillies?

But don't all teams promote from other levels? I didn't think that AAA automatically meant "next to the bigs." I don't keep track, but there is a ton of top talent in AA, isn't there?

[Kneel Before Zod!]

“The reward system in that organization just isn’t there for a minor league guy,” he explained, pointing out how a player like OF Jesus Feliciano can perform at Triple-A, but then be passed over. “They jump people they want from other levels.”

LMAO LOSER

[Dave Magadan]

But don't all teams promote from other levels? I didn't think that AAA automatically meant "next to the bigs." I don't keep track, but there is a ton of top talent in AA, isn't there?

The Mets use AAA as a system to have players ready in case of injury...they can promote from Bingo as it is just as good a league if not viewed better by some I believe. This is the Mets not me btw.

[Ramon Suarez]

The frustrations with the Mets is that they can afford to eat these contracts and they don't

Which again, runs to the point of the counterproductivity of the Mets high payroll. The ENTIRE point of spending like a big market club is that you can go for broke on a higher priced FA and still absorb the loss if he underperforms and needs to be replaced. But what's the point of spending like a large-club if you operate like a small-market organization? I'd argue it actually defeats the purpose of having a large payroll and costs you more in the end if you were just to operate on a mid-market budgets and make creative decisions.

If we had acted like mid-market club in FA when Oliver was on the block we'd never have signed him.

[Athena]

I guess it goes to whoever is in Jerrys favor. Look at Omir last year. They traded Castro when he was doing good. Evans gets sent down when he was crushing it last Spring. Mejia gets to stay this spring. And Jordany Valdesping was getting a long look this spring as a player of the future.

Replace Jerry with Omar and I would agree. Jerry doesn't decide those things.

[sheadenizen]

What's up all? The new job has me HOPPING!

lew, i just asked about you the other day. i was worried that you were deployed or something. good to see you.

[Dave Magadan]

Replace Jerry with Omar and I would agree. Jerry doesn't decide those things.

True but I believe Mejia was all Jerry probably Evans too...so he has Omars ear.

[Ramon Suarez]

Periphials like K's and BB's mean a lot.

And yes, he is giving up hits, but very few for extra bases --- not seeing the games in person make it impossible to fairlyjudge whether he is being hit hard or if he is unlucky.

Last time I checked WHIP was a peripheral and hits determined the majority of that peripheral statistic....

Since his ratio of hits to IP is rather high...I just assume that he's even his singles are hit fairly well....

[Ramon Suarez]

LMAO LOSER

Wowza. Talk about cameo appearances.

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

My issue with the Figgy interview wasn't that he criticized management for the roster construction. Hell we do that everyday here, but he goes on to say that the Phillies aren't concerned with the Mets and such. Does he forget who cast the first stone between these two teams?

[Rave]

Which again, runs to the point of the counterproductivity of the Mets high payroll. The ENTIRE point of spending like a big market club is that you can go for broke on a higher priced FA and still absorb the loss if he underperforms and needs to be replaced. But what's the point of spending like a large-club if you operate like a small-market organization? I'd argue it actually defeats the purpose of having a large payroll and costs you more in the end if you were just to operate on a mid-market budgets and make creative decisions.

If we had acted like mid-market club in FA when Oliver was on the block we'd never have signed him.

You know the Phillies have a higher payroll than the Mets, right?

[DL]

But don't all teams promote from other levels? I didn't think that AAA automatically meant "next to the bigs." I don't keep track, but there is a ton of top talent in AA, isn't there?

of course

many orgs do the same stuff, we just don't pay attention to it. i think it would have been to our benefit to have kept figgz/treated him better or whatever, but in the end he's still just a backend/spot starter type. and he's a phillie now, so fuck him and his constant mets-referencing new team

[Kneel Before Zod!]

Hell we do that everyday here, but he goes on to say that the Phillies aren't concerned with the Mets and such.

haha

figgy knows

[CatchDog]

It will be interesting to see what the Mets do in the rotation over the next week, particularly on Saturday.

They’ve got Taka tonight, Pelfrey tomorrow and Santana on Friday against the Brew Crew. Sunday would bring RA back around, followed by Taka, Pelf & YoYo in San Diego on Monday, Tuesday & Wednesday. Thursday’s an off day and it’s back to Citi on Friday.

Jon Niese is scheduled to be reactivated on Monday, June 1 and will slot back somewhere in the rotation.

However, the Mets don’t have a starter for Saturday’s game in Milwaukee.

The question is; do they start Valdes? Do they give Mejia a try? Do they bring up Tobi Stoner for a spot start?

Or do they give the start to Lollie ?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[sheadenizen]

I don't know why everyone killed him, apart from the fact that he's an ex-Met. I don't blame him for being bitter. And practically everything he said is true. He and Misch and Taka outperformed Perez and Maine by a ton in spring training, yet all were bumped to the minors and/or DFAed like Figgy. Jacobs got the start at 1B despite being useless. Carter vastly outproduced Cat and GMJr, and was dumped to AAA. GMJr even got the start over Pagan and the first shot at being the everyday guy for reasons beyond comprehension. The Mets don't operate on a merit system. If the Mets were stupid enough to give someone a major league contract, they make the team even if they're worthless.

we've all said it a dozen times or more. it's true. anyone who says differently is a habitual liar! :)

[Ramon Suarez]

My issue with the Figgy interview wasn't that he criticized management for the roster construction. Hell we do that everyday here, but he goes on to say that the Phillies aren't concerned with the Mets and such. Does he forget who cast the first stone between these two teams?

That's where he shows his pettiness IMO. And BTW, what Figueroa fails to mention is that if the Mets are a bit concerned about what people think its because they have been one of the most ripped teams in MLB over the past 3 years. They are consistently being trashed by the media and fans for being weak, lacking heart, underachieving, etc whereas the Phillies get their taints licked.

[Ramon Suarez]

You know the Phillies have a higher payroll than the Mets, right?

Yeah...I meant over the past 3 years beforehand....

[Athena]

Zod!!!!

[Dave Magadan]

My issue with the Figgy interview wasn't that he criticized management for the roster construction. Hell we do that everyday here, but he goes on to say that the Phillies aren't concerned with the Mets and such. Does he forget who cast the first stone between these two teams?

The whole concerned thing makes no sense. Of course the Mets are concerned w/ the phils in the aspect of beating them. But when you look on the bulletin board stuff its always the Phils talking shit. Mets are choke artists...The Mets are the one stealing signs, the Mets dont promote from within. You barely hear the Mets saying anything about them unless its we want to win the division this year.

[Rave]

Valdes will start. Jerry was coy about it in the PC, but I think it's a no-brainer.

[sheadenizen]

Btw, I'd love to try to make the Aug 2 game, but it's too early for me to know if I can go.

i'll keep you informed luci.....

[Dep]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/amazin_ok_in_syu1rPCg2UA8zIFdGp2tDP

good read

[CatchDog]

My issue with the Figgy interview wasn't that he criticized management for the roster construction. Hell we do that everyday here, but he goes on to say that the Phillies aren't concerned with the Mets and such. Does he forget who cast the first stone between these two teams?

You gotta wonder if the crybaby remarks he made, coupled with his not-so-stellar performances may ultimately doom his ass.

[DL]

if we ever get to the nlcs again, just kill me if someone puts the hawaiian douche's picture in someone's locker to "inspire" them

[Kneel Before Zod!]

is there a beltran update? is he just working out in st. lucie right now?

hi athena :)

[Dep]

bwahahahahaha Ozzie Guillen is a funny man

i must find these pics

[Ramon Suarez]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/amazin_ok_in_syu1rPCg2UA8zIFdGp2tDP

good read

I really dont think its the controversy that makes this team play well. They are playing well because they are the best home team in the league and happen to be at home right now. If they were on the road, they probably don't win shit.

[DL]

awesome. suns might be my 2nd fave team now

[sheadenizen]

But don't all teams promote from other levels? I didn't think that AAA automatically meant "next to the bigs." I don't keep track, but there is a ton of top talent in AA, isn't there?

I think he was generalizing Athena. He didn't mean it literally. It's guys like GMj and jacobs who get opportuniteis for no reason, he's speaking of....I believe.

[Dep]

So Ozzie signed a ball for a Cleveland fan.....





LMAoaOoOOooooo

[Ramon Suarez]

is there a beltran update? is he just working out in st. lucie right now?

hi athena :)

Yeah, he's working....on his tan!

[Athena]

The Mets use AAA as a system to have players ready in case of injury...they can promote from Bingo as it is just as good a league if not viewed better by some I believe. This is the Mets not me btw.

I know that, but it is not a hard and fast rule. The idea that someone might get promoted from AA is not uncommon, I think. I read Figgy's quote to imply that "jumping from other levels" is unfair in some way. I'm just saying that I don't see anything wrong with it. But maybe I misunderstood his complaint.

[DL]

dragic > lebron

[sheadenizen]

Replace Jerry with Omar and I would agree. Jerry doesn't decide those things.

I don't believe that Omar banished Evans and I believe jerry's input is what kept Mejia here.

[Ramon Suarez]

So Ozzie signed a ball for a Cleveland fan.....



LMAoaOoOOooooo

Cold.
Hearted.

LOL!

[lucienlc]

Which again, runs to the point of the counterproductivity of the Mets high payroll. The ENTIRE point of spending like a big market club is that you can go for broke on a higher priced FA and still absorb the loss if he underperforms and needs to be replaced. But what's the point of spending like a large-club if you operate like a small-market organization? I'd argue it actually defeats the purpose of having a large payroll and costs you more in the end if you were just to operate on a mid-market budgets and make creative decisions.

Exactly. Look at the GMJr contract that the Angels are eating, whereas we won't let him go for a measly $2MM. What's worse is that even small market teams eat contracts more readily than the Mets. Tampa Bay cut Pat Burrell with $9MM owing to him this year.

[DL]

hahahahahahahahahhaa

[sheadenizen]

My issue with the Figgy interview wasn't that he criticized management for the roster construction. Hell we do that everyday here, but he goes on to say that the Phillies aren't concerned with the Mets and such. Does he forget who cast the first stone between these two teams?

that is a legit gripe. I concur with that...that's my issue as well. Like no team was ever a greater bunch of guys than these phils.....puhleeze!

[Rave]

Yeah...I meant over the past 3 years beforehand....

Well then I disagree even more with your whole premise.