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Lunkwill Fook
01-12-2010, 03:43 PM
This is about a week old but I figured it would be a conversation starter.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/1/8/1240420/new-york-mets-top-20-prospects-for#storyjump



1) Jenrry Mejia, RHP, Grade B+: He needs to refine his breaking ball and a full year of Double-A/Triple-A is necessary in my view, but he also has number one starter potential. I hope they don't rush him.

2) Wilmer Flores, SS, Grade B+: Considering the age/competition differential, he had a pretty good year. Hard to get a handle on him sabermetrically as a result, but I'll give him some slack.

3) Fernando Martinez, OF, Grade B+: People are now too negative on him. The guy was the equivalent of a college sophomore last year. If a college sophomore got drafted and hit .290/.337/.540 in Triple-A, people would be drooling over him. He's made significant progress refining his tools. My main concern now is health and durability, which keeps him from ranking higher.

4) Ike Davis, 1B, Grade B: Showed he could hit for power, also has a fine glove. But I think he looks more like a solid regular than a future star.

5) Jon Niese, LHP, Grade B: Assuming the hamstring is OK, I see him as a slightly above average starting pitcher, classic number three guy.

6) Reese Havens, SS, Grade B-: He'll need to switch positions, and health is an issue. Has power and draws walks, and I think the batting average will come up if he stays healthy.

7) Kyle Allen, RHP, Grade B-: Significantly underrated prospect who deserves more attention than he's received. Breakout candidate for '10. I expect this ranking will surprise people.

8) Jeurys Familia, RHP, Grade B-: Like his teammate Allen at Savannah, Familia could break through big in '10. This is another ranking I expect will surprise people.

9) Brad Holt, RHP, Grade C+: I don't like the way he fell apart in Double-A, but the arm strength still deserves respect. Perhaps he might do better in relief.

10) Ruben Tejada, INF, Grade C+: At worst a fine utility guy, but given his youth (age 20) and contact hitting ability he could get beyond that. I like him as a sleeper for long-term success.

11) Kirk Nieuwenhuis, OF, Grade C+: The strikeouts scare me a little, but he has a broad range of skills.

12) Eric Niesen, LHP, Grade C+: You have to love the velocity and movement on his pitches, but command still holds him back.

13) Jefry Marte, 3B, Grade C+: Didn't handle the rush job as well as Flores did, but he's too young to give up on. Plate discipline a big problem.

14) Cesar Puello, OF, Grade C: Excellent tools, showed speed and power potential in the Appy League but weak plate discipline worries me. Could rank much higher next year if he handles more advanced pitching.

15) Josh Thole, C, Grade C: He can hit for average, but has no power and defense is mediocre. Sounds like a bench guy to me.

16) Juan Urbina, LHP, Grade C: He was born a week after I got my master's degree. I'm getting really freaking old. Has the raw potential to rank higher than this but let's see him pitch first.

17) Steve Matz, LHP, Grade C: I think cold-weather high school pitchers are often underrated in comparison to their warm weather counterparts. We'll see if Matz fits that profile.

18) Brent Rustich, RHP, Grade C: If he can stay healthy, he could help in the Mets pen sooner than expected.

19) Tobi Stoner, RHP, Grade C: Could contribute in '10 as fifth starter/long relief type.

20) Dillon Gee, RHP, Grade C: Like Stoner, he can contribute this year, assuming his shoulder rehab has gone well.

Dep
01-12-2010, 03:45 PM
Minors post! w00t w00t

OUR FARM SUCKS
OVERRATED,OVERHYPED BUMS
/MSM TOOL

sheadenizen
01-12-2010, 04:35 PM
I didn't see this when it first came out, so I found it interesting. Here's what I need to know to make it relevant in context. Do many clubs have A and A- players. Do we have more C or C+ ( mediocre) prospects than most. Without seeing other clubs lists, it's hard to put this in perspective. Is there a place to look to see the Mets in conrwext with other clubs farms?
Do people get what I'm asking here?

John
01-12-2010, 06:41 PM
so we have no A's? lol

wonderful lol

Lunkwill Fook
01-12-2010, 07:00 PM
Lots of teams have one A-. A's are relatively rare. Fernando is A- status if it wasn't for the injury issues. Generally, we rank about middle of the pack, 15ish, if you compare.

Joe A.
01-13-2010, 09:03 AM
Sickels seems higher on the Mets prospects than most. F! and Mejia could both reach A- level with a good first half in 2010

Lunkwill Fook
01-13-2010, 09:10 AM
Some, yes, some no. He's pretty down on guys like Thole and Holt yet, at the same time, is taking flyers on Allen and Familia.

Danny
01-14-2010, 08:38 AM
I don't know why he is so down on Thole. Hitting is kind of a rare skill and Thole can do that and play catcher. Which is even rarer. Thole is AT LEAST a C+ by any objective measure and maybe even a B-.

I have concerns about Holt too, I can't bash that ranking.

But yeah, he's really high on Familia and Allen so it balances the ranking a bit for me. And Havens as a B- was a pleasant surprise (but deserved IMO).

Since most of our mosty intriguing prospects are young guys at lower levels, this is a HUGE year for our system, a lot of great or terrible can happen.

Lunkwill Fook
01-14-2010, 11:04 AM
Not just the amazing aggregation of talent at the top, but the way they run the system really impresses me. The Rays can pick good college guys with developed skills. They can pick raw high school guys and turn them into players. They have an effective Latin American operation. They don't push guys too fast: they are particularly conservative with the high school arms, letting them percolate enough at each level. They are the Anti-Mets in that regard, and it really seems to work for them. They can even pick a guy like Rayner Oliveros (released by the Royals) off the scrap heap and get something out of him.

Sickels just did TB's and added a little Mets jab in there.