Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum! July 19th Cards/Mets

[Tim in St. Louis]

"Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur"

[sheadenizen]

Nothing on this blog sounds profound no matter the language....lol!

[Athena]

Love, love, love the title, Timmy! :)

And we are prepared! Kind of. In a missing-the-better-part-of-our-line-up kind of way.

Still. Bring it!

[JayTee415]

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Since Sandy Alderson said at Dodger Stadium he would judge next 10-12 games before dismantling, #Mets are 2-6. We're days away.


SI.com lists PHL, SF, DET, MIL, ATL and BOS as potential Beltran suitors. I've heard firsthand DET, ATL and SF.


Mets 12 out in division behind Phillies, 9 1/2 behind Braves in wild card. And I believe #Braves sincerely are interested in Carlos Beltran.



Seriously, does it matter if the Mets traded Beltran to the Braves over the Giants? Does it sting more if Atlanta wins pennant?


It's not like they're trading David Wright to Braves, where they'd have to face him in future seasons in that uniform when it matters.


Terry Collins predicts Carlos Beltran will play Tuesday.

[sheadenizen]

If the Braves send Venters and Kimbrel back, I'll drive Carlos to Atlanta!

[Athena]

Seriously, does it matter if the Mets traded Beltran to the Braves over the Giants? Does it sting more if Atlanta wins pennant?

Well, it only matters if you are actually a Mets fan. In which case, it is a critical and huge distinction.

But I suppose the rest of the world is indifferent.

[JayTee415]

Sandy's prepared for the war of teams that are lining up to pilfer + purge us.

In the end, victory,..... a great calm and peace will settle upon Queens.

[sheadenizen]

Well, it only matters if you are actually a Mets fan. In which case, it is a critical and huge distinction.

But I suppose the rest of the world is indifferent.

I respectfully disagree Athena...from my point of view. It only matters if you think the mets could actually win the WC this year. I don't. So if they can get good prospects from Atlanta ( who usually does a fairly good job of scouting) I'll bite the bullet. I don't believe the Braves will sign him for next year...so it's a rental. I can live with it.

[Ed in Westchester]

I respectfully disagree Athena...from my point of view. It only matters if you think the mets could actually win the WC this year. I don't. So if they can get good prospects from Atlanta ( who usually does a fairly good job of scouting) I'll bite the bullet. I don't believe the Braves will sign him for next year...so it's a rental. I can live with it.

Atlanta also does a good job of trading away their shitty prospects and keeping the good ones, see Texiera, Mark trade among others.

Now, do I care who they trade him to? Short of the Phillies, no.

Just get the best deal you can Sandy.

[Ed in Westchester]

"Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur"

We're not afraid


And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu... And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

[Ed in Westchester]

and if that fails, we shall say "Ni"

[Athena]

I respectfully disagree Athena...from my point of view. It only matters if you think the mets could actually win the WC this year. I don't. So if they can get good prospects from Atlanta ( who usually does a fairly good job of scouting) I'll bite the bullet. I don't believe the Braves will sign him for next year...so it's a rental. I can live with it.

I hear you. I completely agree that if Atlanta was going to give something of lopsided value, I'd have to live with it. But I don't expect that to happen.

But the question was whether I'd prefer him to play into the post season with the Giants or Atlanta. And I do have a preference. As a matter of practice, If I''m choosing, I'd much rather he go out of division than in. No question in my mind on that point. ;-)

[Athena]

We're not afraid


And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu... And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

Lol!! . . . and more classic literature! :)


being naughty in my sight

Best part!

[JayTee415]

Gotta Love Monty Python

:cool:

[Ed in Westchester]

Who are you who can summon fire without flint or tinder?


There are some who call me... Tim.

[Ed in Westchester]

Pie Jesu Domine, dona eis requiem

[SoCal Metfan]

We're not afraid


And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu... And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

One, two, four....no wait, three!

[littlefallsmets]

Illiterati lumen fidei, God is with us everyday
This illiterate light, it's with us every night

[JayTee415]

•
A source with ties to the Mets said Philadelphia is looking at more than Carlos Beltran. The Phillies also are at evaluating Scott Hairston as a right-handed bat and Tim Byrdak as a left-handed reliever.

Philadelphia has a scout at the Mets-Cardinals game on Tuesday. In fact, there is a large contingent of scouts at the stadium.

[DoctorK16]

The Arizona Diamondbacks have released right-handed reliever Aaron Heilman to make room on the roster for Tuesday night's starter Barry Enright.

Heilman was 4-1 with a 6.88 ERA in 32 games with Arizona. The right-handed Enright was recalled from Triple-A Reno to make the start against Milwaukee after struggling left-hander Zach Duke was demoted to the bullpen.

The 25-year-old Enright opened the season in the Arizona rotation but was sent down after going 1-3 with a 6.49 ERA in six starts. At Reno, Enright was 8-2 with a 4.29 ERA in 12 appearances. Enright is 7-10 with a 4.58 ERA in parts of two seasons with the Diamondbacks.

Custer your boy got got.

[DoctorK16]

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I would like Dom Brown + pitching prospect please.

[DoctorK16]

We're not afraid


And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu... And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

HOLY GRAIL

[DL]

that was a quick first for gee

[DL]

mehhhhhhhhhhhhh

[bcuster]

Custer your boy got got.

he blew his elbow out trying to earn a starting spot in ST. he had a decent May but his speed is down & too many gophers. i think he'll find another job in mlb. even if he doesn't aaron's had a good. long career, he has nothing to be ashamed of. he was our "go to" guy in the bp 2005-2007.
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first kazmir, now heilman. what a shame. ... what could have been.

[JayTee415]

well at least the 9 spot gets cleared.....lol

[DoctorK16]

Too many gophers! He did that when his elbow was good.

[DL]

3 left on thru 2

seems about fucking right

[JayTee415]

anyone else watching on SNY having telecast issues?

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

I will miss you Tron.

[DL]

hitting him hard but zero runs

wonderful

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

WTF Murphy?

[DL]

0 runs 50000000 hits

[DL]

first runner on, and now pujols up

HOW COULD THIS GO WRONG

[DL]

ha, nice gee

[JayTee415]

6-4-3



Go Bats !

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

first runner on, and now pujols up

HOW COULD THIS GO WRONG

Poo lines a shot that hits Jose in the face?

[JayTee415]

Poo lines a shot that hits Jose in the face?

I thought the bat splintering into shanks would impale dillon in the jugular........

[DL]

GREAT OFFENSE

[DL]

a team that cannot score runs is so fucking brutal to follow

[JayTee415]

a team that cannot score runs is so fucking brutal to follow

So long dude...... have a good one. We'll hold down the fort .:)

[DL]

fucking hell

have to have our slowest guy on

[DL]

0 runs 9 million hits

[JayTee415]

oh well , at least we cleared the 9 spot.................. again.

[DL]

cards will score their first run on one hit

[DL]

4 pitch walk

exactly what we need!

[DL]

so fucking predictable

[JayTee415]

SMFH!!!

[DL]

FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK

[DL]

9000 hopper to the pitcher that our pitcher can't get his glove on

[JayTee415]

these 0-2 pitches are catching too much of the plate...



sheeeesh..... there ya go, keep that ball down , dillon

[DL]

we're smoking the ball and have nothing, they got two piece of shit hits are leading now

yeah, not cursed

[JayTee415]

Hip Hip..........Jose!!!


Ginger Knock too....



LGM!!!

[DL]

fucking score here or i KILL

[JayTee415]

C'mon Tron!!

[JayTee415]

Bags Drunk.....


Now What?

[DL]

COME ON MURPH

[JayTee415]

Lets Go Murph!!!

[JayTee415]

oh.....my

[JayTee415]

Gary way toooooo excited..........lol

[JayTee415]

Ritual

Worship

Idolatry

[DL]

we should all be glad someone was spared

good work angel

[JayTee415]

C'mon Bay.....even a fly ball out would do it here

[DL]

god you are a POS bay

[JayTee415]

Man o man o man.....

I feel sorry for the blind as fuck mofo.....

[DL]

i don't feel bad for him at all

[JayTee415]

we need the good ronnpaul here....

[DL]

fucking should have more than 2

[JayTee415]

LMFAO!!!!



weak as shit AB's.....had Lohse on the ropes ....but did him too many favors...

[JayTee415]

Clint Hurdle for MOY !!

[JayTee415]

L'il Nicky is our emergency catcher ??

[DL]

at least gee has been good so far tonight

[JayTee415]

Gee has been solid ....except for that 1 hiccup last inning

[DL]

raul valdes lol

[DL]

MURPH

[JayTee415]

ATTABOY DANNY!!!!

[Dogcatcher]

wow..Holliday hitting .319 with a .410 OB%

Bet he doesnt play defense like Bay does tho...good thing we saved the years and $$ and signed Jason instead..whew!!

[Dogcatcher]

at least gee has been good so far tonight

I think he's a find..didnt understand why he didnt come North with the team after last year in the first place. He's got a great approach to pitching.

[Dogcatcher]

Wringht is killing the ball why dont they just bring him up

[DL]

FUCK

[Dogcatcher]

And Murph better play 2b when david and Ike come back..the boy can flat out hit..tho remember when he came up he had such a high OB%...

[DL]

where was that?

[JayTee415]

squeezing him now??

[DL]

gonna need more runs for the lolpen and all

[JayTee415]

Stretch time.


Can we stretch our lead some more, Please ??

[DL]

ike won't be back this year

[JayTee415]

yikes...
Rough season for Zach Lutz at AAA. Already concussed once this year, he is hit in head again with pitch Tuesday at Syracuse.

[littlefallsmets]

I sometimes wonder if we'll find the real Jason Bay chained up in a broomcloset somewhere.

[DL]

what the hell are these guys doing

[JayTee415]

Congrats to the Thole's....
Josh Thole and wife Kathryn welcomed their first child, a son: Camden Thole, born at 8:41pm tonight.

[JayTee415]

I sometimes wonder if we'll find the real Jason Bay chained up in a broomcloset somewhere.

TC has to realistically think about sitting him.......seriously!!!

The glove in LF notwithstanding.

[Dogcatcher]

ike won't be back this year

I believe he will

[DL]

there's no reason for bay to be batting any higher than 8th

[littlefallsmets]

Bringing back Ike just to get re-injured trying to play the last two months not contending for a playoff spot would be dumb and a little reckless.

Get the surgery tomorrow, be ready for the Grapefruit League.

[DL]

great job bobby

mets will lose

[JayTee415]

Bobby P. needs his best friend in a hurry.....

[DL]

even if he gets jay, pujols will just end it

[JayTee415]

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David Wright went 2-for-4 with two runs scored, 2B, RBI and walk while playing all nine innings at third base.

[DL]

where was that?

[DL]

game fucking over

[JayTee415]

and then there's that ................sheeeesh!!

[Tim in St. Louis]

dp coming

[Tim in St. Louis]

or a gs

[Tim in St. Louis]

or a k

[DL]

and somehow, we escape

[JayTee415]

Good call Tim !!!

:cool:

[four3two1]

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY TURNER...THATS MAH BALLS

Sincerely,

-JOSE "MOTHERFUCKIN KINGS" REYES

[bcuster]

that was bad on poo. what is up w/him?

[DL]

JOSE

[bcuster]

JOSE

really nice to see him back. he just needs to round out into a liitle groove

[JayTee415]

Hey Yo Millah......How U Dune ??

[bcuster]

i'm fine. how r u ?

[DL]

tack on time

[JayTee415]

tack on time

dude...this isn't soccer...

lol

j/k


I know what you meant.....

[DL]

damnit!

[JayTee415]

....
Jason Isringhausen bidding for his 1st save since 8/1/08 with #Cardinals vs. Phillies.

[DL]

BOOKS

[MyFavBaseballSquadron]

Back to 500 books

[JayTee415]

IZZY SAVE BOOKS!!!

# 294


Isringhausen's last save with Mets was 7/6/99

[Dogcatcher]

he blew his elbow out trying to earn a starting spot in ST. he had a decent May but his speed is down & too many gophers. i think he'll find another job in mlb. even if he doesn't aaron's had a good. long career, he has nothing to be ashamed of. he was our "go to" guy in the bp 2005-2007.
\
first kazmir, now heilman. what a shame. ... what could have been.

He was a good pitcher for 3 years; he's basically been dogshit since he left..for once, the Mets got one right

[bcuster]

He was a good pitcher for 3 years; he's basically been dogshit since he left..for once, the Mets got one right

dogshit? i think not. watch your fucking mouth 'catcher. heilman's 10x what you'll ever amount to..

[bcuster]

yadi's career ba against heilman is .200 w/ just the one extra base hit. ... and you all have such hatredx in your hearts. where was fucking wags that day? doing what he was being paid to do? NO! closing out a G7? NO! , he was on the trainer's table with his tail between his legs...

[Dogcatcher]

dogshit? i think not. watch your fucking mouth 'catcher. heilman's 10x what you'll ever amount to..

dude, you need to lighten up and check your facts - seriously, he's been well below average for several years imo.

if you dont agree fine, but keep the personal attacks out of it and grow up

[Dogcatcher]

I just checked and Aaron has a .4 cumulative WAR in 9 seasons, including a minus 1.4 since the last of his 3 good years with the Mets.

Thats not even average

As for the playoffs, I dont base anyones career on one point in time, but he did have a penchant for giving up big hits

[JayTee415]

"I read the news today oh boy.......about a lucky man who made the grade"

"He blew his mind out in a car........he hadn't noticed that the lights had changed"

[bcuster]

dude, you need to lighten up and check your facts - seriously, he's been well below average for several years imo.

if you dont agree fine, but keep the personal attacks out of it and grow up

ur r right. i apologize

[DL]

so fucking sick of the phillies just plugging in turds and ending up looking good

everything goes right for them

[bcuster]

maybe we will do a 1973 and make the playoffs by a miracle. once u r in the playoffs anything can happen


or maybe we will wind up 81-81 and in last place

[bcuster]

!

[bcuster]

;?